Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station deputies, city officials and county agency representatives were on hand Monday as the city of Santa Clarita continued its efforts to eradicate illegal homeless encampments.
Santa Clarita has been working with the Sheriff’s Department and several county agencies, such as Bridge to Home, offering services to the city’s homeless population, said Santa Clarita spokeswoman Gail Morgan.
Three large encampments in Newhall were the focus Monday, as deputies set up shop near the Polynesian Mobile Home Park.
“Today, the city’s Neighborhood Preservation Team and the Sheriff’s Department completed a river cleanup in the Newhall area,” Morgan said. “We found six occupants in three different sites and cleaned out approximately 5,700 pounds of trash and debris.”
The river provides approximately half of the Santa Clarita Valley’s drinking water.
During Monday’s operation, one woman was taken into custody for possession of brass knuckles, according to Sheriff’s Station officials.
In the months running up to the city’s more recent cleanup efforts, Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station deputies and county resources conducted weekly trips through the river wash, where officials identified about two dozen homeless camps.
The homeless citizens living in the area were offered services, then given posted notice of the evacuations, which have been followed by city-contracted bulldozers to clear the various encampments. Dozens of the city’s homeless population live in the Santa Clarita River wash throughout the city, which the city has been trying to stop.
The two previous operations were based in Valencia and Canyon Country, respectively, and resulted in relatively few arrests, but “tons” of garbage removal.
“In the course of the cleanup, we have cleared literally tons of trash and debris,” Morgan said, “and we will continue to monitor the sites that we have already cleaned up, as well as continue to inspect new sites.”
All possession and items gathered by the city are stored for a period of time in accordance with state law, according to officials.
The cleanup effort aimed at the homeless population is the second since the Santa Clarita Valley’s only homeless facility, a seasonal shelter run by Bridge to Home, closed its doors for the season March 22.
The shelter recently sought community help for the Bridge to Home volunteer dental program, which helps low-income residents in addition to the homeless population.
Officials estimate the homeless populations in the Santa Clarita and San Fernando valleys has increased by 64 percent in the last two years, according to numbers from Bridge to Home officials.
Past estimates by officials put the Santa Clarita Valley’s homeless population in the hundreds.
The homeless shelter operated at or near capacity for most of the season with 60 beds. Shelter Executive Director Tim Davis has estimated in the past that the shelter services about 10 percent of the SCV’s homeless population on most nights of operation.
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Tend city
Tent city
Jose Ceja crazy
Saw a story similar to this on PBS, and showed one of the tent cities in SCV. Aired about 3 weeks ago.
Are you helping to relocate them? Why isn’t the homeless shelter open year round?
I’m sure your a volenter that can help them relocate right?
No, but I’ll volunteer to help you spell correctly.
Read the story, bridge to home was involved, help was offered, they were given proper notice to vacate. Yes the homeless need help, but many choose to live in the wash. You can lead a horse to water , you can’t make him drink.
The homeless shelter is not run by the city it is run by a non-profit group called Bridges to Home. the understanding I have is that they do not have the resources to runt he shelter year round. No homeless shelters are run by cities it is generally non-profits. So if they don’t have donations to run year round then the shelter closes.
Relocate to down town la get out of scv
Why don’t they try doing something constructive like having a shelter open year round that actually helps people get on their feet with drug and alcohol treatment and job assistance. That’ll do a lot more good than the current plan…
Yeah let’s take away our hard earned tax money from our schools and things that help make our community better and let’s pay to shelter people who choose to use drugs and/or be homeless. REALLY?!? Get out of here with this.
You assume too much when you accuse the homeless of OUR CITY of being on drugs or homeless by choice. What smugness…*and* ignorance. What little you know about people and the circumstances that rock their lives. EVERYONE is two paychecks from homelessness; miss one rent/mortgage payment, you get a letter; miss the second you’re out on your ass. A tattoo doesn’t make you smart and your snarky sarcasm is a sign that you’re insecure about your lack of intelligence. We already know you have no compassion. Time to grow up now.
I agree with you Ron.. We give a lot of money to people who don’t want to work and choose to spend their money in any way shape or form(drugs, cars, cellphones, etc)
But no help for people (ex:addicts or homeless) who WANT and desperately NEED to be helped.
We need big changes!!!
Such programs are already in place. These people elect NOT to use them.
They have them set up
Year round shelter won’t help those who won’t help themselves
“These” people? Really? “These people” are someone’s son/daughter/sister/brother/mother/father. Homelessness is despair as a result of trauma from poverty, abuse, mental illness, being a VETERAN, or just a raw flip of a coin of hard luck. “These people” are down-and-out humans living among the privileged. Sharing our good will and fortune makes us rich in many ways. You should try it, someday your wounds may place you as one the vulnerable and down trodden. Though I don’t wish that on anyone, find comfort in knowing I would be honored to lend you my support, regardless of the circumstances which find you in need. May you never know such despair but may you someday learn compassion and the true meaning of community.
Sad to turn a blind eye to the problem we have, you all have money problems don’t you? You all have issues not easily solved especially with American society & its economy, EVERYONE is struggling, some people more then others, you have no idea clue what these people have gone through & why they are at where they are at, take one second to think about this, to have a job you need an address to have an address you need a home, without a home how do you expect people to help themselves? These people are not the problem it’s the laws hoops you have to jump through & the good ol dollar bill to blame. OPEN YOUR EYES.
So it’s ok for them to break the law?
So it’s ok for them to break the law?
So it’s ok for them to break the law?
These people are not responding to help. They choose to live this way. Many times returning to their camps after being offered rehabilitation. And the poor people like friends of mine who neighborhoods are plagued by breakins, drug deals, crime ect As a result of these camps. You can’t help people that refuse to help themselves
When I lived down that way, I knew a lot of people who lived in those camps and your blanket statement of people that are thugs that want no help is ignorant and incorrect. That said, it’s exactly what I expect from “Awesometown”…
You can only help the ones who accept the help, yes, but to throw the baby out with the bathwater is immoral, reprehensible and without any common decency.
I don’t get the “refusing help” mentality. They are homeless. How would they have access to a computer to look up help? How can they justify spending gas money to drive around excessively when they have mouths to feed and need to chose between feeding themselves or gas money (if they live out of their cars)? How can they follow up with job applications if they can’t afford a cell phone? I know the whole where-there’s-a-will-there’s-a-way but we need to be more compassionate. No one CHOOSES to be homeless. And if it is drug or alcohol related, why judge them any more than the drug addicts and alcoholics that so have homes? I know you know someone with a drinking problem. A privileged, job-holding, college attending friend of mine died recently from a drug overdose. Are you saying these people deserve less help simply because they don’t have a home? You make me sick. Not very Christian of this predominantly christian community.
Also, you can bust down the shelter but they’ll just set up camp elsewhere. If it truly bothers you that much, why don’t you do what you can to help them into a permanent living situation?
You guys need to readjust your thinking and your hearts. Some of these comments are just straight up ignorant.
Yes they do choose to be homeless, wake up. ^^
Why don’t the choose to get jobs?
So we can count on all you preachers, telling us how we need to change and do something about the problem, to lead by example, right? Take these poor unlucky folks into your generous Christian homes and report back to us how that goes.
Well said Tony
If people truly want to help and want to donate their money, why don’t they do that. Someone else might want to donate their money to schools, churches, or something else.
Compassion is always best. In this case, thease people will just move down to sylmar or up to Palmdale. There’s a guy I camped right in front of the sylmar/San Fernando metro station. He’s been there for about 6 months. He’s got his little fridge, a cell phone, a laptop, a tent.hes right where he wants to be. He’ll walk up to an old person in a wheelchair and ask for hand outs. I told him to leave the old people alone.. They can’t afford to give him money from their SSI or social sec.
A lot of thease people get SSI and social security and go out and beg on the corner.
But of course for those who really need it compassion is always best
It is tragic that this city is so heartless. Great! haul away the homeless people’s only possession but do nothing to provide low income housing. Essentially the only low income housing in this city is only for the elderly and the waiting list for it is years long. People usually don’t want to live in the Wash. Yes, some may have addiction problems or be mentally ill but they are human beings.”In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.”Anatole France This town is callous and cruel. As Bob Kellar said, “We don’t want THEM around the NICE people of Santa Clarita.”
Looks nice!
Good
Hobo? Wow
Trend City?
. Its so sad but not many of them have places to go sucks that the winter Shelter bridge to home has to be closed during summer seasons it sucks that they’re only able to be open during winter time most of these homeless people are very kind polite generous people I’ve had the opportunity to work with them and they’re amazing
“Hobo camp”?????????
Well to those ppl saying go to LA get out of here …..what kind of human being are you? Some of those ppl had a life before being homeless why are people so uncaring? I hope one day you don’t have to live out on the streets….and SCV is just as bad because they refuse to acknowledge there is a homeless problem hence they decline to open a shelter to help the ppl that have no shelter (only during winter) …..unbelievable
Invite those who choose to live this way to live w/you.
Who are you to judge? Why do you assume they choose to live like that? But than again thanks to people that think like you is one of the many reasons why people sometimes end up like that. Because other people decided it was not their problem or because they choose to think they are living like that because they want to. How many homeless people have you talked to or helped? Well hopefully you don’t have to go through something like that…..and if you do I hope the people you encounter have the same mentality that you have right now…PS: Hopefully hell well be a homeless free world when you visit :)
Yes, Carole. I can’t believe the level of Republican “me first” smugness in this city. And I’ll bet people like Mary Stelow, Stephanie Ann, Shirley Vercelli go to church and step over a homeless person rather than give them money to buy a meal and then justify it to themselves by some lame excuse. Each and every one of you Republican suburbanites in your smug little cocoons — yes YOU Mary Stelow — are going to be judged some day by how you treated your sisters and brothers. Also remember what goes around comes around. One night you may have a flat tire some place inconvenient.
Well I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years and many DO choose this life. She didn’t say they all did she just said those that do. Don’t be fooled by the homeless you would be surprised how many are actually happy in this environment. We’ve given them clothes and food and shelter. We’ve even given them job opportunities. They take it then go back to living on the street. Don’t be so quick to assume they are all desolate.
Well I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years and many DO choose this life. She didn’t say they all did she just said those that do. Don’t be fooled by the homeless you would be surprised how many are actually happy in this environment. We’ve given them clothes and food and shelter. We’ve even given them job opportunities. They take it then go back to living on the street. Don’t be so quick to assume they are all desolate.
Well I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years and many DO choose this life. She didn’t say they all did she just said those that do. Don’t be fooled by the homeless you would be surprised how many are actually happy in this environment. We’ve given them clothes and food and shelter. We’ve even given them job opportunities. They take it then go back to living on the street. Don’t be so quick to assume they are all desolate.
Unfortunately that is true Mary Rosenast Hunt I’ve come across many like that ….but there are also others who want to get their lives back on track but sometimes we as humans judge and we simply walk away when we should help if we can instead of turning a blind eye….but to each their own….but in my opinion we should help one another instead of just passing judgment without knowing what lead to a persons situation ….
Unfortunately that is true Mary Rosenast Hunt I’ve come across many like that ….but there are also others who want to get their lives back on track but sometimes we as humans judge and we simply walk away when we should help if we can instead of turning a blind eye….but to each their own….but in my opinion we should help one another instead of just passing judgment without knowing what lead to a persons situation ….
Unfortunately that is true Mary Rosenast Hunt I’ve come across many like that ….but there are also others who want to get their lives back on track but sometimes we as humans judge and we simply walk away when we should help if we can instead of turning a blind eye….but to each their own….but in my opinion we should help one another instead of just passing judgment without knowing what lead to a persons situation ….
Two wrongs don’t make a right. And believe me I’ve seen people come into very hard times that really want to make it work but we are talking about these people who are literally living in my neighborhood committing crimes and threatening my neighbors. They need to leave. This sent about judging people it’s about keeping my kids safe.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. And believe me I’ve seen people come into very hard times that really want to make it work but we are talking about these people who are literally living in my neighborhood committing crimes and threatening my neighbors. They need to leave. This sent about judging people it’s about keeping my kids safe.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. And believe me I’ve seen people come into very hard times that really want to make it work but we are talking about these people who are literally living in my neighborhood committing crimes and threatening my neighbors. They need to leave. This sent about judging people it’s about keeping my kids safe.
That is true and I agree but again by sending them away to another place won’t solve anything something has to be permanently done to avoid this problem to continue
Absolutely but unfortunately some are not always compliant. They don’t always want to leave.
But ultimately is up to the people that run our city and that run the whole government they are the ones that have to do something about this problem…..they rather put millions of dollars into a high speed rail system than put that money to use to solve the problems we face now …..
Really SCVTV? Hobo?? You should be ashamed!
What should they call them? Bums?
Don’t be so sensitive
Don’t be so sensitive
Don’t be so sensitive
They should be called homeless. Find some empathy.
They should be called homeless. Find some empathy.
They should be called homeless. Find some empathy.
Let’s call them what they really are which is squatters on private property. Anyone who doesn’t like that lifestyle has options, shelters, churches Etc. And I work closely with some of these options so I know they exist. They dont want help. They want to live like that. They are not victims.
Let’s call them what they really are which is squatters on private property. Anyone who doesn’t like that lifestyle has options, shelters, churches Etc. And I work closely with some of these options so I know they exist. They dont want help. They want to live like that. They are not victims.
Let’s call them what they really are which is squatters on private property. Anyone who doesn’t like that lifestyle has options, shelters, churches Etc. And I work closely with some of these options so I know they exist. They dont want help. They want to live like that. They are not victims.
‘There go I but for the grace of God’ this is what my Mom said every time she saw people struggling. We need to have compassion and STOP judging and generalizing people! We don’t know what has happened to them or why they are in these unfortunate situations. This community can do more and should!
It’s not about judging. These people are living on private property down my street threatening my neighbors and stealing from us. That is a reality. They have been caught and seen commiting the crime.
Yeah. The “hobo” thing was questionable.
Many of the encampments have people who would rather not follow the rules of the shelters and facility’s available to help them. Cant get drunk or high in a shelter.
‘Hobo’ camps? Really?
Homeless people in America sure have a lot of stuff.
Hobo?
I was getting ready to see if anyone else was concerned by that choice terminology. Good to see you! ;p
Hobo camps? Wow. Hey, I’ve got a phrase for ya: “Bush-league journalism”
And where are these people going. Sounds to me like a cleansing of people–something the Nazis did too.
Michael Mustac alot of these emcampments are drug users and alcoholics. Not everone but alot. There are many things the citys do to help. Homless shelters, helpline phone numbers, councilors on hand, police also have given out cards with help numbers and location where one could get food and clothing. What is the problem is that noone sees a problem until it is effecting them “such as if its not in jy back yard who cares”. But when it starts to effect those where it was never thought to effect in the area you live in “meaning anyone’s area” then its like why are the police doing wrong. … Truth is its just thr opposite. Besides from the police and some volenteers the real question is What are YOU doing about it “AKA the public”. Nothing just talking as usual
Well were do you expect them to go? Did you offer them an alternative? Seems mean.
Send them to rehab
This is ugly, heartless, and cruel. I cannot believe that I live in a city that behaves like this. Whom, exactly, were these people hurting by living in that wash ?
Hmmm , isnt the drought more important , been here all my life , whatever happened to the good ole days when a helping hand was more important then judging how someone is able to live , i think S C V big shots just try to get people all caught up in something more than what the REAL problems are , so back to some truth , we are in a drought , people are bieng told to save water but the building doesn’t stop , thousands more acres will soon be swallowed up by more housing tracts that will need a water supply , and all the what i call the redecorating of the new S C V , so much planting going on , which needs watering , makes it confusing , drought or no drought ??? , Grandpa , what happened to the good ole days ? Miss the 60s and 70s when our S C V was country and beautiful ,
There have been murders where those ëncampments are” Its more serious than a drought
Adelita, I moved here in 66. It certainly was different here then. But times change. We grown and we’re still a beautiful city, but I totally agree with you and the crazy building going on and then they rant about water and drought issues. That being said tho, this homeless problem is also growing. If it’s allowed, it will grow like topsy. It’s like weeds.
Hobos huh? You mean homeless? Or maybe in need of help? Santa Clarita needs to stop sticking there noses up at the less fortunate and maybe try humbling themselves and try helping people instead of kicking them when they’re down! Try growing a heart. How about treating people the way you would want to be treated?
Nicky Mustang I totally agree and don’t feel the the police who have the decision making power. They are just a finger on a hand, it’s not the publics job to affect change. We put people in office to affect change. Problem is in the corrupt government we have if the change isn’t going in there pockets they aren’t interested !!!
But again to reiterate the police do what there told, what options would police officer friendly have when presented with a moral dilemma of arresting a homeless women with brass knuckles for protection and bulldoze her only possession (a tent) none and I agree it should be none it’s his job to uphold the law. Im stating that the governing body above them are handing down the wrong solution. Santa Clarita does have a growing homeless population and just evicting from one locale for them to find yet another wash to live in isn’t the solution, and I don’t pretend to know what they are doing and or why they are there but another solution is needed. I live in one of the most exclusive areas of the SCV and they are in “my backyard” and I see them daily, with that being said and the inconvenience of being hassled for change every time I get caught at a light and or when I get gas and or when I go food shopping on Sand Canyon road I still don’t think arresting them and bulldozing there areas was a good solution …… It’s just a band-aide!!!!
Miss you occifer nasty!
Good get those river RATS out of here. Thanks sheriff dept for taking out the trash.
Agree
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Agree three
Agree three
Wow that’s pretty sad. So much hate here.
I don’t get the “refusing help” mentality. They are homeless. How would they have access to a computer to look up help? How can they justify spending gas money to drive around excessively when they have mouths to feed and need to chose between feeding themselves or gas money (if they live out of their cars)? How can they follow up with job applications if they can’t afford a cell phone? I know the whole where-there’s-a-will-there’s-a-way but we need to be more compassionate. No one CHOOSES to be homeless. And if it is drug or alcohol related, why judge them any more than the drug addicts and alcoholics that so have homes? I know you know someone with a drinking problem. A privileged, job-holding, college attending friend of mine died recently from a drug overdose. Are you saying these people deserve less help simply because they don’t have a home? You make me sick. Not very Christian of this predominantly christian community.
Also, you can bust down the shelter but they’ll just set up camp elsewhere. If it truly bothers you that much, why don’t you do what you can to help them into a permanent living situation?
You guys need to readjust your thinking and your hearts. Some of these comments are just straight up ignorant.
It’s not hate its frustration from people who pay tax. Instead of helping our kids and their future we help people that don’t wanna be helped.
What a terrible way to tell this story!
Really? Hobo? lol
Would hate to have the job of cleaning that up
These people are a pain in the ass. They squat on private and public properties. Also utility property and right of ways. They leave trash urine and theses. They start fires like the one at the 210 at Osborne. They steal and mooch harassing people. Most of them are mentally ill. They should seek help or clean up and get jobs and move back to regular life.
Wth!! Hobo??? Why don’t they just leave these people alone or open up more shelters so that they have a place to live! My father was a homeless man and he did no wrong to anybody and got treated like crap by Cops all the way to the end of his life! How would they feel if they were the ones out there on the street?
You can’t help people that don’t help themselves. Many of these people are given shelter and opportunities only to return to their drug habit and their camps. I know a few personally and it’s sad to see
You can’t help people that don’t help themselves. Many of these people are given shelter and opportunities only to return to their drug habit and their camps. I know a few personally and it’s sad to see
You can’t help people that don’t help themselves. Many of these people are given shelter and opportunities only to return to their drug habit and their camps. I know a few personally and it’s sad to see
To all of you being so self righteous, one of these camps is down the street from my house. We’ve had home break ins, they’ve gone through our trash several times , they’ve threatened our neighbors with weapons for example a machete, they have destroyed the fences and other private properties, we have an over flow of rats because of the trash, they have camp fires at night risking home fires. My house wasn’t cheap and we pay our taxes and work hard. They have squatted on private property without permission and are not contributing to society so get off your high horses and put yourself in my position and tell me how you would feel. Besides they are offering them options, they aren’t just kicking them out of a ” home”. And look up the definition of a hobo before you go off on a tirade it just means homeless and penniless. These people are not victims.
The hobo term dates back over 100 years, but it was probably made most famous during the great depression when there were no jobs and people traveled looking for work. Hobo encampments were not directly in towns, instead on the outskirts because they wanted the town to welcome them for odd jobs, and hobos were known for being a community, they were not known robbing stealing or hurting the surrounding community, they cleaned up after themselves and although homeless, most refused hand outs and we’re just trying to find whatever work available. This does not describe the homeless in SCV
The hobo term dates back over 100 years, but it was probably made most famous during the great depression when there were no jobs and people traveled looking for work. Hobo encampments were not directly in towns, instead on the outskirts because they wanted the town to welcome them for odd jobs, and hobos were known for being a community, they were not known robbing stealing or hurting the surrounding community, they cleaned up after themselves and although homeless, most refused hand outs and we’re just trying to find whatever work available. This does not describe the homeless in SCV
The hobo term dates back over 100 years, but it was probably made most famous during the great depression when there were no jobs and people traveled looking for work. Hobo encampments were not directly in towns, instead on the outskirts because they wanted the town to welcome them for odd jobs, and hobos were known for being a community, they were not known robbing stealing or hurting the surrounding community, they cleaned up after themselves and although homeless, most refused hand outs and we’re just trying to find whatever work available. This does not describe the homeless in SCV
If you’re not riding the rails with your bindle over your shoulder, you’re not a hobo. ;)
If you’re not riding the rails with your bindle over your shoulder, you’re not a hobo. ;)
If you’re not riding the rails with your bindle over your shoulder, you’re not a hobo. ;)
Again look the definition up
Again look the definition up
Again look the definition up
And seriously the verbiage is the last thing I’m thinking about here
And seriously the verbiage is the last thing I’m thinking about here
And seriously the verbiage is the last thing I’m thinking about here
Well put, Mary
Well put, Mary
Well put, Mary
“These people are not victims.” But you are? You’re complaining because someone has gone through your TRASH — discarded carrot peelings and rotten lettuce? Maybe someone was desperately HUNGRY. Maybe you’ve had rats because they come down from the hills when it’s dry looking for water. “…destroyed the fences and other private properties.” Do you have proof it was “them”? If you do file a police report and finger the responsible person. “They have squatted on private property.” The wash is private property? Then what was the Sheriff’s department doing removing the trash? But this is the best: “…are not contributing to society.” Maybe each and every one did and was kicked in the ass out of the work force for their efforts because of… Well, I won’t get political. How would I feel if I were you? I’d get myself in therapy — and right quick. Lady you are what’s wrong with this country. You are one fearful, smug, entitled, arrogant WASP with absolutely NO compassion, much less empathy, whatsoever. Read Kitti St. John’s post. And get yourself a high colonic.
Get off you high horse, we all have a story. You’re judging what you don’t know. You have no proof that the same people that broke into your house are the ones whose only belongings were destroyed. You are heartless!
Get off you high horse, we all have a story. You’re judging what you don’t know. You have no proof that the same people that broke into your house are the ones whose only belongings were destroyed. You are heartless!
Get off you high horse, we all have a story. You’re judging what you don’t know. You have no proof that the same people that broke into your house are the ones whose only belongings were destroyed. You are heartless!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo, there are several documentaries, books and movies that can further educate you on the life and history of hobos, they a well respected piece of American culture and history. There are several books and literary works written by hobos, they are not bums, they travel the rails, work when they can to further the travels. It does matter because these homeless, in the SCV, choose it, deny help, and after being told vacate they refused. Many are on drugs, few look for or want work, and most live by panhandling or stealing.
It does matter, because hobos were rarely ran out of town. I support the cities choice to destroy these homeless encampments, but they should not be making these people out to be more than they are.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo, there are several documentaries, books and movies that can further educate you on the life and history of hobos, they a well respected piece of American culture and history. There are several books and literary works written by hobos, they are not bums, they travel the rails, work when they can to further the travels. It does matter because these homeless, in the SCV, choose it, deny help, and after being told vacate they refused. Many are on drugs, few look for or want work, and most live by panhandling or stealing.
It does matter, because hobos were rarely ran out of town. I support the cities choice to destroy these homeless encampments, but they should not be making these people out to be more than they are.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo, there are several documentaries, books and movies that can further educate you on the life and history of hobos, they a well respected piece of American culture and history. There are several books and literary works written by hobos, they are not bums, they travel the rails, work when they can to further the travels. It does matter because these homeless, in the SCV, choose it, deny help, and after being told vacate they refused. Many are on drugs, few look for or want work, and most live by panhandling or stealing.
It does matter, because hobos were rarely ran out of town. I support the cities choice to destroy these homeless encampments, but they should not be making these people out to be more than they are.
Wow. Actually we do have the proof because they were arrested. And I hardly think I’m the one on the high horse here when I’m living down the street and experiencing it first hand. And heartless? You tell me when your neighbor is threatened by a machete and you witness a drug deal right in front of your children down the street from the same people living in the camps how you will feel and tell me I’m heartless ,unbelievable. We witness them day after day coming into our neighborhood. We have found items that belonged to neighbors in their camps. It so happens I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years so as far as being heartless, I believe the correct verbiage is realistic.
Wow. Actually we do have the proof because they were arrested. And I hardly think I’m the one on the high horse here when I’m living down the street and experiencing it first hand. And heartless? You tell me when your neighbor is threatened by a machete and you witness a drug deal right in front of your children down the street from the same people living in the camps how you will feel and tell me I’m heartless ,unbelievable. We witness them day after day coming into our neighborhood. We have found items that belonged to neighbors in their camps. It so happens I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years so as far as being heartless, I believe the correct verbiage is realistic.
Wow. Actually we do have the proof because they were arrested. And I hardly think I’m the one on the high horse here when I’m living down the street and experiencing it first hand. And heartless? You tell me when your neighbor is threatened by a machete and you witness a drug deal right in front of your children down the street from the same people living in the camps how you will feel and tell me I’m heartless ,unbelievable. We witness them day after day coming into our neighborhood. We have found items that belonged to neighbors in their camps. It so happens I’ve worked with homeless for over ten years so as far as being heartless, I believe the correct verbiage is realistic.
My daughter(10) just said, when seeing a camp near off ramp of Sand Canyon, I thought that’s not allowed here. :/ I thought she was right.
The Wash Junkies Don’t Want Help. They Want More Drugs. Im Glad The City Is Finally Doing Something. We Spend A Lot Of Money To Live Here. We Should All Feel Safe.
I agree with Mary Hunt.If their a nuisance and committing crime in the neighborhood they need to go. Everybody has an opinion see if yours changes if they put an encampment next to your house. Better yet if you still feel sorry for them invite them to stay at your house. The best idea is for the city to have year round housing for them and support to get them on their feet
I do feel for you Mary. I completely understand where you’re coming from, they can be a problem. But not all homeless are bad, just like not all cops are bad. For the few that are, it causes problems for everyone. I wouldn’t want them in my neighborhood for those reasons. I hope the solutions give you some peace of mind.
Not every homeless person is a threat. You people don’t care about them, just view them as scum less than human because they are less fortunate. They aren’t animals and they have no where to go. Do you think they like living in a wash? Why don’t you do something positive to help end the problem instead of push it somewhere else?
Don’t tell me I don’t care about them just because I want them out of my neighborhood. I do care but the reality is that they don’t care. They were given an option, they were given an opportunity and they chose not to take it. This is not a family with children living down the street from me. ( and that is the only group I am referring to) They are drug dealers that are setting up a base camp for selling drugs. They are entering my neighborhood on a daily basis and selling drugs to the kids here. How do I know? I’ve seen it , I experienced it personally. Someone I know was buying from them. Do they want to live there? Who would? but it’s the only place they can sell drugs and get high they don’t allow that behavior in shelters. The same shelters they were offered. This is their choice. They aren’t scum they are people making poor choices but when those choices become a threat to my neighborhood and our children, you bet I want to push them out.
With all our land…with all our resources…why can’t we set up temporary tent housing…Porta potties…shower facilities…have a location where people can go…where agencies can go to render what assistance is available…why arnt we helping…what is being done only makes it worse…if you are barely surviving and the law comes and destroys what little you have…it only makes it that much harder to survive…it’s like they are hanging by finger tips on a cliff and we are stomping on their fingers…this is not humane by any stretch of the imagination …
I hear all these do gooder replies and when you point a finger at city officials, you have three pointing back at yourself! What have any of you done for the homeless here lately. It is a health hazard for these camps to exist.These are not local people, there is help offered to the homeless but most refuse to accept because they won’t give up their drugs and won’t take meds for metal illiness.many are not american citizens, need to be sent back. Our school children are at risk. These are not just poor innocent people. They may be why our burglaries have increased. Thank goodness they are cleaning up these camps. Send them back to LA.p.s. We are building homes here for homeless vets. See if you can help or donate money. I did.
Considering you want to be as professional a news station as possible (I assume), I suggest you watch your terminology. Using the term “hobo” rather than the definitive term “homeless” makes you look less educated and rude.
To all who are offended by the word Hobo please go look it up, it means penniless homeless vagabond. How does this not fit?
Where are the homeless supposed to go? We need a year round shelter and counseling.
The people defending the homeless making these camps don’t have to look at it when they walk out their door. Many have said on these comments that the majority are alcoholics and drug addicts. True. Most of them do opt for this instead of a shelter or other types of help. Think of all the things that come with camps and the people that live there. Car break ins, thefts, home burglaries, etc. it does cause a problem- I see it every day. It’s a good thing they are cleaning it up. Hopefully, if there is nowhere else to turn, they will get help. Hopefully. There are PLENTY of options for help.
I really don’t like the term “hobo”.
Hobo? ??????who even uses that word any more. These are homeless people.
Hobo? Any proof that they are only here working and plan on traveling to another town soon to look for work? So many people upset at the use of the term hobo, but I think “hobo’s” themselves would be upset that these homeless groups are being called hobos & giving their lifestyle a bad rep
Yes I think the term hobo for these homeless is offensive to real hobos that are actually trying to work.
And by the way, they have all returned today. They are all down there right now setting up their camps. Once again breaking the law and squatting on private property which my neighbors and I will have to pay for to clean next time. So you can all get your asses down here and get them a home but the reality is that they choose this. They were all offered an option but as said before they can’t do drugs and drink in shelters. How do I know they are dealing? I’ve seen it first hand I’ve seen them come into my neighborhood dealing to the kids.
I know of a personal situation where the “homeless” person would rather drink than follow the rules to live in a shelter…relatives have helped him numerous times, put their homes & selves at risk, finally took him to a rehab facility – all to no avail. He can’t hold a job, gets one & first pay check goes out & drinks it all…it reaches a point where you can’t help unless they want the help…no matter what they/or anyone else says. If you truly feel for these people take them into your home & see what happens. A year-round shelter won’t help!
Do you realize alcoholism is a disease? You can’t just say I’m going to stop cold-turkey. And not all homeless are the same.
I’m an alcoholic. I quit 19 years ago. Why? Because I didn’t want to end up like them. They need to want help. Unfortunately many of them want a hand out. Not real help.
Good riddance. Stay out our riverbeds you hobos! Get off the booze and drugs.
Good riddance. Stay out our riverbeds you hobos! Get off the booze and drugs.
I don’t completely agree. But I have to say. I enjoy the fact that you don’t mince words. Say it how ya see it.
Good riddance. Stay out our riverbeds you hobos! Get off the booze and drugs.
About time they start cleaning up Santa Clarita
About time they start cleaning up Santa Clarita
About time they start cleaning up Santa Clarita
With all the movie studios in Newhall and Santa Clarita…and multi million aires .actors making money there..they should be able to build a shelter and have make money acting.
With all the movie studios in Newhall and Santa Clarita…and multi million aires .actors making money there..they should be able to build a shelter and have make money acting.
With all the movie studios in Newhall and Santa Clarita…and multi million aires .actors making money there..they should be able to build a shelter and have make money acting.
And by the way, they have all returned today. They are all down there right now setting up their camps. Once again breaking the law and squatting on private property which my neighbors and I will have to pay for to clean next time. So you can all get your butts down here and get them a home but the reality is that they choose this. They were all offered an option but as said before they can’t do drugs and drink in shelters. How do I know they are dealing? I’ve seen it first hand I’ve seen them come into my neighborhood dealing to the kids.
And by the way, they have all returned today. They are all down there right now setting up their camps. Once again breaking the law and squatting on private property which my neighbors and I will have to pay for to clean next time. So you can all get your butts down here and get them a home but the reality is that they choose this. They were all offered an option but as said before they can’t do drugs and drink in shelters. How do I know they are dealing? I’ve seen it first hand I’ve seen them come into my neighborhood dealing to the kids.
And by the way, they have all returned today. They are all down there right now setting up their camps. Once again breaking the law and squatting on private property which my neighbors and I will have to pay for to clean next time. So you can all get your butts down here and get them a home but the reality is that they choose this. They were all offered an option but as said before they can’t do drugs and drink in shelters. How do I know they are dealing? I’ve seen it first hand I’ve seen them come into my neighborhood dealing to the kids.
Is that where Hobo Kelley is from? Lol
Is that where Hobo Kelley is from? Lol
Is that where Hobo Kelley is from? Lol
so, there is only a season for homel? That debris was their lives. Have a heart.
so, there is only a season for homeleasiness? That debris was their lives. Have a heart. Why don’t you try to help folks instead of hurt them. Until you’ve worked with the homeless or tried to be a part of the solution you shouldn’t comment.
“These” people? Really? “These people” are someone’s son/daughter/sister/brother/mother/father. Homelessness is despair as a result of trauma from poverty, abuse, mental illness, being a VETERAN, or just a raw flip of a coin of hard luck. “These people” are down-and-out humans living among the privileged. Sharing our good will and fortune makes us rich in many ways. You should try it, someday your wounds may place you as one the vulnerable and down trodden. Though I don’t wish that on anyone, find comfort in knowing I would be honored to lend you my support, regardless of the circumstances which find you in need. May you never know such despair but may you someday learn compassion and the true meaning of community.
“These” people? Really? “These people” are someone’s son/daughter/sister/brother/mother/father. Homelessness is despair as a result of trauma from poverty, abuse, mental illness, being a VETERAN, or just a raw flip of a coin of hard luck. “These people” are down-and-out humans living among the privileged. Sharing our good will and fortune makes us rich in many ways. You should try it, someday your wounds may place you as one the vulnerable and down trodden. Though I don’t wish that on anyone, find comfort in knowing I would be honored to lend you my support, regardless of the circumstances which find you in need. May you never know such despair but may you someday learn compassion and the true meaning of community.
“These” people? Really? “These people” are someone’s son/daughter/sister/brother/mother/father. Homelessness is despair as a result of trauma from poverty, abuse, mental illness, being a VETERAN, or just a raw flip of a coin of hard luck. “These people” are down-and-out humans living among the privileged. Sharing our good will and fortune makes us rich in many ways. You should try it, someday your wounds may place you as one the vulnerable and down trodden. Though I don’t wish that on anyone, find comfort in knowing I would be honored to lend you my support, regardless of the circumstances which find you in need. May you never know such despair but may you someday learn compassion and the true meaning of community.
Those aren’t hobos. These were hobos so if any one should be mad over terminology. These guys should
Who cares? It’s just a word. There is a much bigger issue here.
That was my point the fact that their Makin a big deal over the word. My goodness your just as bad as they are
How am I as bad? Wow. I’m sorry are you the one living in a neighborhood with squatters down the street selling drugs to our kids and stealing from our homes. Not to mention threatening my neighbor with a machete? Excuse me if my compassion has been put on hold for a moment. Who in the hell are you to say I’m as bad.
Those aren’t hobos. These were hobos so if any one should be mad over terminology. These guys should
Who cares? It’s just a word. There is a much bigger issue here.
That was my point the fact that their Makin a big deal over the word. My goodness your just as bad as they are
How am I as bad? Wow. I’m sorry are you the one living in a neighborhood with squatters down the street selling drugs to our kids and stealing from our homes. Not to mention threatening my neighbor with a machete? Excuse me if my compassion has been put on hold for a moment. Who in the hell are you to say I’m as bad.
As the ones complaining about the word hobo. Lady if you have a problem deal with it with actions not through a Facebook post where your words do nothing.
Have a good day
I’m not the one complaining about the word hobo. I’m complaining about the squatters living down the street and committing crimes in my neighborhood. And we are being proactive. Good day to you
Weird I was on your side. I again was pointing out how dumb they were for arguing over the dam word
my mistake Jose , sorry.
Those aren’t hobos. These were hobos so if any one should be mad over terminology. These guys should
Who cares? It’s just a word. There is a much bigger issue here.
That was my point the fact that their Makin a big deal over the word. My goodness your just as bad as they are
How am I as bad? Wow. I’m sorry are you the one living in a neighborhood with squatters down the street selling drugs to our kids and stealing from our homes. Not to mention threatening my neighbor with a machete? Excuse me if my compassion has been put on hold for a moment. Who in the hell are you to say I’m as bad.
Hobos? You mean homeless. Sad to turn a blind eye to the problem we/Santa Clarita/every city ever has, you all have money problems don’t you? You all have issues not easily solved especially with the way American society is & its economy, EVERYONE is struggling, some people more then others, you have no idea or clue what these people have gone through & why they are at where they are at, take one second to think about this, to have a job you need an address to have an address you need a home, without a home how do you expect people to help themselves? These people are not the problem it’s the laws hoops you have to jump through & the good ol dollar bill to blame. OPEN YOUR EYES.
Hobos? You mean homeless. Sad to turn a blind eye to the problem we/Santa Clarita/every city ever has, you all have money problems don’t you? You all have issues not easily solved especially with the way American society is & its economy, EVERYONE is struggling, some people more then others, you have no idea or clue what these people have gone through & why they are at where they are at, take one second to think about this, to have a job you need an address to have an address you need a home, without a home how do you expect people to help themselves? These people are not the problem it’s the laws hoops you have to jump through & the good ol dollar bill to blame. OPEN YOUR EYES.
I’m so down to set up a kickstarter to start a shelter out here….
Hobos? You mean homeless. Sad to turn a blind eye to the problem we/Santa Clarita/every city ever has, you all have money problems don’t you? You all have issues not easily solved especially with the way American society is & its economy, EVERYONE is struggling, some people more then others, you have no idea or clue what these people have gone through & why they are at where they are at, take one second to think about this, to have a job you need an address to have an address you need a home, without a home how do you expect people to help themselves? These people are not the problem it’s the laws hoops you have to jump through & the good ol dollar bill to blame. OPEN YOUR EYES.
If you look at this stuff is it got does look like a plan to go anywhere
If you look at this stuff is it got does look like a plan to go anywhere
If you look at this stuff is it got does look like a plan to go anywhere
Alyssah Roth in case you needed to know more about santa clarita and privilege…read the local news’ caption on this…
Alyssah Roth in case you needed to know more about santa clarita and privilege…read the local news’ caption on this…
Alyssah Roth in case you needed to know more about santa clarita and privilege…read the local news’ caption on this…
Hobo is a outdated word it may have been used correctly but it appears ignorant.
Hobo is a outdated word it may have been used correctly but it appears ignorant.
Hobo is a outdated word it may have been used correctly but it appears ignorant.
I love the term Hobo! There’s upsides to nice climate, and there’s downsides to nice climate. You need snow in the winter and Grizzled Bears in the summer like we have up here in Montana. No Hobo problems.
Wow, hobo? How about saying homeless or the less fortunate. You make yourself sound stupid and heartless @scvtv
The intelligence of the people that run our city never cease to amaze me. You should be ashame of yoursellf. SO TELL US WHERE ARE YOU TAKING OR SENDING THESE PEOPLE. ?? I THINK WE SHOULD CALL CHANNEL 4 NEWS THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR CITY IS DOING THAT UPSET PEOPLE. THIS UPSETS ME BIG TIME. LET THEM GET A HOLD OF THIS STORY THEN SANTA CLARITA WILL NOT BE THE FAIR HAIR CHILD.
Did Mickey Spillane write this article?! Hobo?!
Hobos? What is this, the 1930?!?
I don’t get the “refusing help” mentality. They are homeless. How would they have access to a computer to look up help? How can they justify spending gas money to drive around excessively when they have mouths to feed and need to chose between feeding themselves or gas money (if they live out of their cars)? How can they follow up with job applications if they can’t afford a cell phone? I know the whole where-there’s-a-will-there’s-a-way but we need to be more compassionate. No one CHOOSES to be homeless. And if it is drug or alcohol related, why judge them any more than the drug addicts and alcoholics that so have homes? I know you know someone with a drinking problem. A privileged, job-holding, college attending friend of mine died recently from a drug overdose. Are you saying these people deserve less help simply because they don’t have a home? You make me sick. Not very Christian of this predominantly christian community.
Also, you can bust down the shelter but they’ll just set up camp elsewhere. If it truly bothers you that much, why don’t you do what you can to help them into a permanent living situation?
You guys need to readjust your thinking and your hearts. Some of these comments are just straight up ignorant.
I Don’t Care What You Call These Derelicts. The Wash Junkies Living In The HoBo Camps Have Got To Go. I’m Glad They Are Flushing Them Out. They Don’t Want Help. They Want Dope.
how do you know what they want? you have no idea about their story. don’t judge until you have walked in their shoes. they are humans and need to be treated as such
Thanks for that cookie cutter statement. Everyone has their own battles they are fighting. I don’t need to walk in their shoes.I have many of my own shoes to walk in. Their shoes suck, Their shoes made bad decisions, their shoes are breaking the law. This is how you treat humans that break the the law.
last time I checked being homeless was not against the law. I agree there are those who choose to live that way and those who break the law but there are many who honestly don’t have a choice and they deserve a little human kindness. none of us never know when we could end up like that. don’t take life for granted. get off your high and mighty throne
Can I borrow some shoes from one of ya ?
Can I borrow some shoes from one of ya ?
Beat It Dude!
Beat It Dude!
Most of the homeless steal so.. They break the law ;). Most of them consume weed… And most of them don’t believe in working…. They want easy money, easy help… ..
Get rid of the homeless cause it don’t fit the fake ass awesome town image SMFH.
All the liberals are killing me!
We really need skid row in our wash and Obama is a great president.
You win the comment of the day
There’s a camp here too. Just north of wiley canyon/via princess a bridge
We’re not called “Awesome Town” for nothing!
im pretty sure living arrangements has been done for some….not sure what happens that we don’t help too many of them anymore…..i think they had a hard time changing some of their habits cause if your really homeless and down on your luck and appear like you want help you can be helped…problem is we don’t know the whole story and sure would love to hear about it …why the outcome has come to this and where they are placed….mary i would be so pissed if i were in your situation…its not a easy solutions….i think many have given up hope and that can make it really hard to get up from the ground….when you don’t have a 5days a wk job to take pride in working…mentally you lose it all
ron the shelter thing sounds so simple but they get so crowded and if you don’t have a job to go …how productive will these people be? don’t you think this has been tried ?
Paige Glosup
So sad.
Well done SCSO….the vast majority of these folks can’t work due to their criminal history….an inordinate number of the charges are for violent behaviour and should still be in jail. They were let out due to overcrowding. Thank god for our gated communities where we don’t have to put up with their laziness, craziness and fits of rage.
P.S. for you educated folks: Ho·bo
ˈhō-(ˌ)bō noun: a person who has no place to live and no money and who travels to many different places….just sayin
I believe their should be more respect when it comes to homeless people then calling them hobo’s. Some of them are homeless veterans. SCVTV you change that to homeless from hobo. Even though some of them taught for our country and might have had seen some traumatic stuff and they were introduced into drugs and they realized that’s the best way for them to cope with their mental issues they still deserve a little respect.
I am proud to say that my Papa was a hobo. He traveled the tracts for years, until he found a good job. Eventually, he settled down, married, raised a family, and became a successful business man. Long live the hobo!
Maybe we can bus the homeless to an area that has a 24/7 shelter so they have an easier way to live. And maybe we can all act like grown ups and not leave rude comments on facebook. Come on people. Think of the real problem here. It’s not about judging each other by our profile pictures it’s about cleaning up our cities so it’s safe for everyone. If the homeless are leaving trash and living in the washes illegally don’t you think it’s time they are moved? I just think if you guys actually went down there and saw where and how these people live you’d want them out too. For their benefit as well as ours. They’d be better off in a city that has shelters that can provide for them. Just saying.
Hey I got an idea so you can stop “cleaning up” these camps!! OPEN UP A SHELTER.
PS: Having a shelter during winter doesn’t help when we have 110 degree summers. What logic is that?
Like someone pointed out earlier. Most of the homeless won’t follow the strict drug and alcohol free rules in a shelter.
The article says this is the second time the police had to do this since the shelter closed down only a few weeks ago.
I believe it was President Reagan who closed the
State Mental Institutions where many of “these people” would be taken care of if we still had them. Drugs affect minds as well as bodies. Making Marijuana legal is already coming back to bite our society. Medical Use control is a farce!
Immorality in our entire country will destroy us as it did Rome. The sand of Time is almost empty at the top of the hour glass.
Well said, Ron. That shelter should be open 365 days/year. What a joke that the city felt it was more important to address the “beautification” of the 14 freeway and Sand Canyon, than to put money into programs like the shelter or food pantry. We took blankets to the shelter last year, two days before before opening, and people were already lining up to get in. I was truly embarrassed for our city.
I’m confused as to why people aren’t reading what the city did try to do. They tried to give them options. They brought them to shelters. It’s certainly not about beautifying the city. It’s about trying control the crimes that are being committed by the people living down my street and the drugs they are selling to our kids. Five hours after taking them to the shelters and trying to help them, they came back and set up camp again. There are people out there that dont want help. They are drug dealers and it’s a base camp for people to buy drugs. I know this for a fact because they are living down the street. Not to mention a friend of mine was unfortunate to involving herself in drugs and would visit these base camps to buy. It’s not always a matter of people coming into hard times and needing help.
I never said that I support the camps. They’re close to my home in CC as well, and yes, they need to be swept for safety reasons. But the financial waste that occurs in our city is outrageous, and the fact that shelter isn’t open year round is inexcusable.
If open year round, the shelters could help to alleviate this burden. It’s certainly a move in the right direction.
Kaleigh Clark
It’s about time the city steps up and clean up the trash and the people that goes with it
It’s about time the city steps up and clean up the trash and the people that goes with it
We should do is like the city of San Fernando does put them on the train
We should do is like the city of San Fernando does put them on the train
Wow, a lot has changed since I moved away 7 years ago! I still miss my home town though.
Hmmmm, I’m torn on this one. That garbage was all the possessions they had so I feel bad for them. They are homeless, they are NOT less than I am, they have less than I do. But I also don’t want to see piles and piles of what I consider to be garbage and an eye sore. I’ll pray for them and an answer to being homeless.
Mary Rosenast Hunt, I understand your dilemma and I agree the homeless can be a problem, not only with theft, but mental illness and filth. I wouldn’t want them in my neighborhood, certainly. But we need to find an answer for the issue. I hope the clearing out of the camp gives you some peace of mind.
This Mary lady keeps complaining about the homeless selling drugs to her/or the neighborhood kids,witnessed it herself. Sounds like you have an in home problem you should be handling instead of focusing so much on the homeless. Next thing you know if might be you in that situation. Wouldn’t want to lose sight of what’s really important, family first. Wouldn’t want your kid or the neighbors kid to be an addict. Once hooked the lies abd the stealing begins. How do you know for a fact that the homeless broke in and stole from your neighborhood? Who’s to say it wasn’t those kids exchanging things for drugs? I mean if you witnessed the crime yourself then why not do a citizens arrest and help in stopping the burglaries?
But again that’s just my opinion
A few years back, these homeless people and illegal aliens that are down there assaulted me. I was simply down there to look for my missing brother. It is horribly disgusting whats in those camps located in the wash/river.
So many wealthy people out here that are stuck up. If u realize all the people who had hardly anything drop everything to help the less fortunate out . But everyone out here is so stuck up and worried about the city and crime . Maybe there wouldn’t be as much crime if there were more resources for struggling families and people on the rocks… Not everyone is the same you know! WHAT IF U WERE HOMELESS !?
There will never be a 100% way to solve homelessness. The city is right by trying to keep the large camps out of the Santa Clara riverbed (aka “The Wash”),for safety and sanitary reasons. You know what they say about large numbers-there is strength. This is not good strength we’re talking about. It just allows the homeless to flourish and less likely to seek or want help because they have created their own sense of family. Therefore the camps need to be out of the river, broken up into smaller manageable groups. Santa Clarita is not being insensitive -the Liberals just label them to be!!! The homelessness will unnaturally continue to grow and be unmanageable if we make it easy to be homeless.
Marcia really? They are removing them from someone else’s property not their homes and they aren’t killing them. That’s a little too much comparing the city to Nazis and an insult to those killed by the nazis as well. Try again.
Hobo??
Yea get some shelters
Yea get some shelters
Some of these (helpless people) that live there are tweakers, and they are corrupting our youth with meth and heroin! Believe me when I say that there should be a place for them, but the crazy ones don’t even go to the shelters, a lot of these people are still in the wash right now! And to top it all off these people are robbing people on the bike paths, so go ride your bikes and feel safe at night just pass Sierra highway after dark and tell me it’s not creepy!
All for it SCVTV. !
All for it SCVTV. !