header image

[Sign Up Now] to Receive Our FREE Daily SCVTV-SCVNews Digest by E-Mail

Inside
Weather


 
Calendar
Today in
S.C.V. History
April 19
1880 - Pico Oil Spring Mine Section 2 patented by R.F. Baker and Edward F. Beale [story]
E.F. Beale


Now and Then in the SCV | Commentary by Darryl Manzer
| Tuesday, Jun 10, 2014

mug_darrylmanzerAlong with my thoughts of places and streets, it comes to mind, thanks to a close friend, that some names are just plain strange.

Some recent additions are “Hidden Valley” – it’s a housing development that sits on a hill. It also has a street named “Mentry Drive” that is not in any way near Mentryville. It is near a street called “Crestview” that is on a crest of the hill, so you can’t view the crest you’re on, and that ends at Skyridge Drive.

What and where is Honby? At one time, it had a water stop for train engines, and it was also a place where helper engines would be added to a train that was headed over the pass toward Palmdale. By the way, it is pronounced, HAWN-bee.

Did you know there are streets on the map that sound a little bit Hawaiian? There are some spelling problems as the words migrated here to the mainland, but we have a Niihau and Kahoolave street in the Polynesian Mobile Home Park, along with Monakea, Lahaina and Haleakala streets. I don’t think Hawaii would appreciate some of those spellings of Hawaiian places. But hey, here on the mainland, we don’t use words like that.

As much as we “love” Valencia, it was a name picked nearly at random for it’s marketing value. Much was made in the local paper about having a whole new city named after a thick-skinned orange.

We know about Lang Station and the Lang Ranch, but as parts of the ranch were sold we got “Pole Canyon.” It was purchased from Mr. Lang by a group of Polish folks who had recently arrived in our valley – in 1880 or so. It is really close to Bear Canyon, where a huge grizzly bear was shot way back when – if you can believe the story.

Another grizzly bear story is from Fort Tejon. Legend has it that a trapper named Lebeck (from which we get “Lebec”) was killed by a big bear and buried under an oak tree where Fort Tejon was established. We aren’t sure of that story, as the other “oak tree tale” is the Oak of the Golden Dream in Placerita Canyon. You know that yarn, too. Senor Lopez takes a nap under that oak tree and dreams of gold. Sure enough, he awakens and pulls a wild onion that was grown near the tree. The onion had gold on it, and the story became “true.”

Just a few problems with that story: Onions don’t grown under oak trees, because the fallen leaves of the oak are toxic to the onion, and the story was verified many, many years after the fact of the gold discovery. It did help to give Placerita Canyon its name and a mascot for Placerita Junior High, the Miners.

They could have been some of the early oil men of Placerita and Pico; drillers of oil wells were called “miners” in days of old.

mentry-tibbittsSouth of Newhall Ranch Road, we can find street names that combine famous names from the era of the Central Pacific Railroad, Avenues Crocker, and Stanford and Huntington, along with modern names like Avenue Tibbitts, which is crossed by Avenue Mentry. Samuel Tibbitts was the man from the Lutheran Hospital Society who partnered with Newhall Land to bring us Henry Mayo Hospital.

Mr. Mentry was nearly forgotten, and now his name pops up all over – except in Mentryville. The one and only street is Pico Canyon Road.

You know someone isn’t from here when you hear them say, “Agua Dull-chee” instead of “Dool-say.” Some folks call it Sweetwater.

Find these places on a map today: Bonelli tract. American Beauty and North Oaks. The last two were in Saugus until we started calling that area Canyon Country.

And Saugus was once the location of Newhall until Newhall moved to where it is today. Saugus was for a time called “Surrey.” Don’t know why. Maybe it just sounded good at the time.

Now I challenge folks to locate Wickham Canyon and Minnie-Lotta Canyon … which also brings to mind another tract that sits on top of a now-covered canyon. And just how did “Southern Oaks” get that name? There were no “southern oaks” there in Stevenson Ranch, but it did have lots of good old California live oaks.

And I’m still amazed at “Seco Canyon” Road. In its previous name it was the eastern side of the Bonelli tract.

More names stuff soon. I’m kind of liking this search. All y’all be good now.

 

Darryl Manzer grew up in the Pico Canyon oil town of Mentryville in the 1960s and attended Hart High School. After a career in the U.S. Navy he returned to live in the Santa Clarita Valley. He can be reached at dmanzer@scvhistory.com and his commentaries, published on Tuesdays and Sundays, are archived at DManzer.com. Watch his walking tour of Mentryville [here].

 

Comment On This Story
COMMENT POLICY: We welcome comments from individuals and businesses. All comments are moderated. Comments are subject to rejection if they are vulgar, combative, or in poor taste.
REAL NAMES ONLY: All posters must use their real individual or business name. This applies equally to Twitter account holders who use a nickname.

16 Comments

  1. Whispering Leaves is kinda weak…

  2. Whispering Leaves is kinda weak…

  3. Dwayne Pine Dwayne Pine says:

    As long as they dont name any more streets after our local polititions

  4. Chris Rider Chris Rider says:

    Don’t want streets named after developers friends first names as well

  5. Gailxy drives me crazy!!

  6. First time I drove into “Friendly Valley” ( a senior community) a senior driving out flipped me the bird!!!!’ I think they got the name wrong!!!!!!

  7. Heidi J says:

    We live on Elvira Road, always thought that was strange.

  8. Jennifer Rashid says:

    Calypso Ln. Were not in the Caribbean so how do we end up with a name of a type of music or a goddess?

  9. Dave Lee Dave Lee says:

    Yeah! What’s the deal with Gailxy? Does anyone know?

  10. Yeah and stop naming the streets of elected politicians instead try naming the street after a fallen hero who fought and died for are country that live in Santa Clarita. Cjc

  11. Dave , when they named all those side streets off Soledad,way back,,they put together the names of the contractors wives,,!!!! All those stupid girl names!!!that don’t make sense,,,

  12. Karla Love Karla Love says:

    lmfao.. what about Heller Dr. Angel Reyes like HELLLURRRRR lol in my (Madea) voice

  13. Streets that change names is one of my SCV pet peeves! Why do that? This is very obvious when traveling Newhall Ranch.

  14. What’s the deal with airline food anyway?

Leave a Comment


Opinion Section Policy
All opinions and ideas are welcome. Factually inaccurate, libelous, defamatory, profane or hateful statements are not. Your words must be your own. All commentary is subject to editing for legibility. There is no length limit, but the shorter, the better the odds of people reading it. "Local" SCV-related topics are preferred. Send commentary to: LETTERS (at) SCVNEWS.COM. Author's full name, community name, phone number and e-mail address are required. Phone numbers and e-mail addresses are not published except at author's request. Acknowledgment of submission does not guarantee publication.
Read More From...
RECENT COMMENTARY
Tuesday, Apr 16, 2024
Supervisor Barger issued the following statement today, after the Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to implement the Rental Housing Habitability Program
Monday, Apr 15, 2024
Cowboy Festival weekend is upon us!
Thursday, Apr 11, 2024
Have you ever wanted to journey to another country to experience an array of new and unique cultures and customs?
Tuesday, Apr 9, 2024
In bustling Santa Clarita, where many residents lead busy lives and often feel divided and disconnected, there is a growing need for spaces that bring people together, fostering community and hope.
Monday, Apr 8, 2024
Each spring the city of Santa Clarita proudly showcases its cowboy culture and pays homage to its rich Western heritage during the one-of-a-kind Santa Clarita Cowboy Festival.
Thursday, Apr 4, 2024
Springtime, with all its blossoms and lovely weather is a popular time to get married. If you are looking to say “I do” at this picturesque time of year, look no further than City Hall Ceremonies.

Latest Additions to SCVNews.com
1880 - Pico Oil Spring Mine Section 2 patented by R.F. Baker and Edward F. Beale [story]
E.F. Beale
The Master's University men's golf team shot a 13-under 275 to finish second at the Golden State Athletic Conference Men's Golf Championships held at Briarwood Country Club in Sun City West, Ariz.
TMU Men’s Golf Places 2nd, Women 5th at GSAC Championships
Join local nonprofit Project Sebastian for an exhilarating day of racing and community support at its Rare Warrior 24 race on Saturday, June 1, at Heritage Park in the heart of Santa Clarita.
June 1: Rare Warrior 24 Race Benefiting Project Sebastian
Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff's Station Station deputies will be taking part in the “DEA National Drug Take Back Day,” Saturday, April 27, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m., in front of the SCV Sheriff’s Station, located at 26201 Golden Valley Road.
April 27: Drug Take Back Day at SCV Sheriff’s Station
The College of the Canyons Center for Civic and Community Engagement—in collaboration with COC’s Golden Z Club—invites the community to attend the Nonprofit Community Resource Fair on Tuesday, April 30.
April 30: COC Hosts Nonprofit Community Resource Fair
College of the Canyons made quick work of visiting L.A. Valley College in a shortened 11-3 home victory that came on a day in which the program unveiled its newly named Michele Jenkins Softball Team Room during a pre-game dedication ceremony.
Lady Cougs Outslug L.A. Valley 11-3
For aspiring scientists at The Master’s University, taking up a student research project is no small commitment.
Retired Professor Continues to Mentor Aspiring TMU Scientists
The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health is warning residents not to use a Vietnamese herbal ointment called “Cao Bôi Trĩ Cây Thầu Dầu” (Castor Oil Hemorrhoid Extract) because it contains lead and can be fatal.
Public Health Urges Residents to Avoid Vietnamese Hemorrhoid Cream
State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurmond hosted a California Apprenticeship Summit Wednesday to raise awareness of apprenticeship opportunities and career technical education pathways that connect California’s youth to high-wage, high-growth career opportunities.
State Apprenticeship Summit Connects Youth to High-Wage Opportunities
College of the Canyons student-athletes Nichole Muro (softball) and Angelo Aleman (baseball) have been named the COC Athletic Department's Women's and Men's Student-Athletes of the Week for the period running April 8-13.
COC Names Nichole Muro, Angelo Aleman Athletes of the Week
California State Sen. Scott Wilk, R-Santa Clarita, announced Wednesday his bill improving transparency between parents and schools’ sexual education curricula passed out of the Senate Education Committee.
Wilk’s Sex Education Transparency Bill Clears Senate Committee
1945 - Actors Harry & Olive Carey sell Saugus ranch after 29 years; now Tesoro del Valle [story]
Carey Ranch
The 76.6-mile-long Antelope Valley Line has the third-highest ridership in Metrolink’s system with an estimated average of 9,000 passengers daily. However, the uneven terrain and single-tracking along the line in some areas forces trains to travel at a slower speed which results in an estimated travel time of approximately one hour between Santa Clarita and Union Station.
Metrolink to Hold Public Meetings on AV Line Capacity, Improvements
Team Dragon Eyes, affectionately known as TDE, is gearing up to host its highly anticipated Fifth Annual Dragonboat Festival race on Saturday, June 1 at Castaic Lake, Lower Lagoon.
June 1: Team Dragon Eyes to Host Fifth Annual Dragonboat Festival Race
This year marks the 20th year that the city of Santa Clarita has been hosting the annual Bike to Work Challenge. The community is invited to celebrate by riding a bike to work the week of May 13, and stopping by a pit stop on Thursday, May 16.
Party at the Pit Stop, City Paves Way for 20th Annual Bike to Work Challenge
Ready to take control of your financial future? Join the Los Angeles County Department of Consumer and Business Affairs Center for Financial Empowerment for the next installment in the Lunch & Learn Financial Capability Month webinar series, "Understanding Credit.
Online Financial Workshops with County DCBA
The Santa Clarita Valley Concert Band will perform a "Starry Might" concert at 7 p.m. on Saturday May 4. The concert, under the direction of Tim Durand, will be held at the Canyon Theatre Guild, 24242 Main St., Newhall, CA 91321.
May 4: SCV Concert Band Presents ‘Starry Night’ at CTG
After a record-setting 2023 combatting organized retail crime, the California Highway Patrol continues to aggressively disrupt and dismantle illegal operations throughout California.
CHP Continues Organized Retail Crime Crackdown, Recovers $4.2M in Goods
Celebrate Earth Day on Monday, April 22 with California State Parks at any of the 280 unique park units across the state. State Parks has numerous Earth Day-themed events planned. They include in-person activities such as guided walks and hikes, workdays and a bioblitz, as well as virtual programming with a live dive broadcast exploring the hidden world of the ocean.
April 22: Celebrate Earth Day at California State Parks
1930 - Telephone switchboard operator Louise Gipe, heroine of the 1928 St. Francis Dam disaster, tries & fails to kill herself over an unrequited love [story]
Louise Gipe
Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Major Crimes Bureau Detectives worked closely with Century Station Detectives after learning of a serial robbery crew committing crimes throughout Los Angeles County. 
Serial Robbery Crew Arrested
Join the Samuel Dixon Family Health Center for their second annual Cornhole Tournament fundraiser where all proceeds will support mental health services to anyone in need.
May 18: Samuel Dixon Cornhole Tournament Fundraiser
California State University, Northridge will confer honorary doctorates on four alumni, all respected leaders in their fields, at the university’s commencement ceremonies next month.
CSUN to Confer Honorary Degrees on Business & Education Leaders, All Alumni
On Saturday, April 20, 2024 Valencia High School Theatre will host the 104th DTASC (Drama Teachers’ Association of Southern California) Shakespeare Festival.
April 20: 104th DTASC Shakespeare Festival at Valencia High School
SCVNews.com