header image

[Sign Up Now] to Receive Our FREE Daily SCVTV-SCVNews Digest by E-Mail

Inside
Weather
Santa Clarita CA
Sunny
Sunny
90°F
 
Calendar
Today in
S.C.V. History
October 5
1970 - College of the Canyons' first on-campus classes held in portable buildings located just south of future Cougar Stadium [story]
portables


Commentary by Joe Messina
| Monday, Jan 30, 2017

Well not so much. Yes, the president did launch against Muslims … in 1980. That was President Jimmy Carter. Carter’s attorney general at the time ordered all Iranian students holding a visa to report to immigration officials or face immediate deportation. A federal judge ruled it unconstitutional (sound familiar?) – but it was then reversed by a higher court in September 1980. There were more than 60,000 students registered. Of those, 430 were deported because of visa issues and concerns. Another 5,000 left voluntarily.

Carter also ordered the invalidation of visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the U.S. He stated we would not reissue visas, nor would we issue new visas except for compelling and proven humanitarian aid reasons or where our national interest was at hand, and the directive is to be strictly interpreted. (Can someone show me the links to the Democratic liberal outcry?)

So, let’s just say that Carter’s decision was OK because it was temporary. So is Trump’s. It has also been said that Carter’s was different because it didn’t call out a single religion and was dealing with a current crisis. Ah, really? Trump is also dealing with a current crisis, and the “news” media is lying to us when they say it’s against a religion. It’s not. It’s against nations that harbor terrorism and have ties to ISIS which happen to have a heavy Muslim population.

Another lie: Trump is banning all Muslims from entering the U.S. Yup, another “fake news” story. Trump’s temporary ban doesn’t include the seven countries that “fake news” is reporting. It includes one country, Syria, and Trump has agreed to create safe spaces for them. (If it’s good enough for our college kids, it should be good enough for refugees.)

If you actually read the document, it says:

The order seeks “to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States.” It says it seeks “suspension of issuance of visas and other immigration benefits to nationals of countries of particular concern.” It also says, “I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order.”

And it targets Syrians specifically: “I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.”

The news is reporting that the order bars all people hailing from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. Not true. And the news continues to attack Trump for selecting these seven countries and not selecting other states, saying he is protecting “his sprawling business empire in these other countries.” Large publications bought into it without any fact checking. Again.

Before I forget, the seven nations falsely mentioned as Trump’s choices for harboring terrorists actually came from the Obama administration. Yup. You see, Mr. Obama, at the request of then-Secretary Hillary Clinton (see a pattern here?) paused the Iraq refugee program for over six months in 2011. Selective recall by the Democrats.

I might add that the “Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015” not only included those seven terrorist nations but also prohibited entry into the United States even if you had simply traveled to one of those countries. What? No outcry?

Who was secretary of state in 2011? Mrs. Clinton. In 2011, the FBI found (quite by accident) that al-Qaida operatives were allowed in with a batch of Iraqi refugees due to poor background checks. All of the things we are told we don’t have to worry about. And who reported on this? It’s ABC News, not that so-called nutjob place Fox News. Did I say batch? That’s a dozen, I mean several dozen, who were let in. The FBI concluded many were bomb makers targeting American troops on military bases.

The FBI was tipped off after if found two al-Qaida operatives with Iraqi refugees in Bowling Green, Ky. They were brought to court and admitted to attacking American soldiers in Iraq. The FBI was so concerned that it dispatched hundreds of agents to try to track down where they were sending the IEDs in America.

There was so much information gathered that the Obama administration paused Iraqi visas for six months and allowed fewer than 10,000 visas to be processed for the rest of the year. That was less than half compared to the year before.

The ABC News team concluded that the vetting process was flawed and dangerous. Not Breitbart. Not Fox News. But mainstream media – ABC.

In checking out the process, it seems the basic verification process is to check names, variation of names and fingerprints against a “known terrorist affiliate” list. The word that should slap you in the head is “known.” Hello. How do we know someone we don’t know? How does someone who hasn’t been caught making bombs in Iran, Iraq or elsewhere get on the “known” list if he hasn’t ever been caught or suspected? They don’t. Therefore, they will always come up clean, just like the above bomber did.

Sounds like the Obama vetting system worked well. Obama “paused” immigration six different times. Not a word from the left.

I also believe Bill Clinton signed a travel ban from countries that had HIV outbreaks. Again, no outrage from the left.

Didn’t FDR sign a proclamation or executive order limiting the right of Germans, Japanese and Italians in this country, regardless of whether they were born here? I don’t believe he sent them back to their countries. I believe he locked them up in internment camps. Yet, FDR is held in the highest esteem by Democrats all over the country.

So, back to my usual statement: If you’re a Democrat, everything your team does is righteous, and everything the Republicans do is devilish – although that might not make sense to some of you because you don’t believe in heaven or hell.

It’s not equality the Dems want; it’s total control, and there is no fair playing field with their bat and their ball. The rules change as they need to in order to give them the upper hand.

You were found out in this election. Major wins over the last eight years in all areas of government for Republicans and conservatives.

Dems, please keep using your same message and same mantra. It will ensure a long, victorious run for Republicans and conservatives. And long live Nancy Pelosi.

 

 

Joe Messina is host of The Real Side (TheRealSide.com), a nationally syndicated talk show that runs on AM-1220 KHTS radio and SCVTV [here]. He is also an elected member of the Hart School Board. His commentary publishes Mondays.

 

CORRECTION: President Trump’s order includes Syria, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and the Sudan. It “proclaim(s) that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days…”

8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12) refers to aliens who had been present “(I) in Iraq or Syria; (II) in a country that is designated by the Secretary of State under section 4605(j) of title 50 (as continued in effect under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)), section 2780 of title 22, section 2371 of title 22, or any other provision of law, as a country, the government of which has repeatedly provided support of acts of international terrorism; or (III) in any other country or area of concern designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security under subparagraph (D)…” The Secretary of Homeland Security added Somalia, Libya and Yemen to the list in 2016 as published in the Federal Register (here); Iran and the Sudan were already on the list (see Federal Register).

 

Comment On This Story
COMMENT POLICY: We welcome comments from individuals and businesses. All comments are moderated. Comments are subject to rejection if they are vulgar, combative, or in poor taste.
REAL NAMES ONLY: All posters must use their real individual or business name. This applies equally to Twitter account holders who use a nickname.

17 Comments

  1. Don Teller Don Teller says:

    Ignore the man behind the curtain

  2. Don Teller Don Teller says:

    Even the conservative Santa Clarita Valley voted for Hillary Clinton because they realized Donald Trump is unfit to be president.

    https://signalscv.com/2016/11/16/santa-clarita-valley-went-clinton-voted-gop-ballot/

  3. Joe Messina needs to crawl back under the rock he came from.

  4. True but check dates and reasons those decisions were made. They reflected specific activities and usually one country- not just a general free for all! Plus the decision was discussed and not impulsively made!

  5. Guilani admitted that Trump asked him how they could ban Muslims legally and this was their idea for the work around. So yeah, it is a ban on Muslims.

  6. Allan Cameron says:

    A majority of Americans did not vote for Trump. No avid Republican in public office anywhere seems to have brought a single case of “voter fraud” criminal action, anywhere in the US, even though repeated claims of such “fraud” are made. If MILLIONS of votes were cast illegally, one would think that a least one single case would have made it to a court by now. None have been brought as of now, even in States controlled by Republican office holders.

  7. So like which Muslim country is holding our 59 hostages you Moron ! Get a Grip Stupid !

  8. Make America Great Again #Trump

  9. Guido Keijzers says:

    “So, back to my usual statement: If you’re a Democrat, everything your team does is righteous, and everything the Republicans do is devilish – although that might not make sense to some of you because you don’t believe in heaven or hell.”…Mr Messina, give me a break….everything Obama did the last 8 years, such a governing by decree, has been called ‘develish’ by Republicans. Republicans called it unconstitutional and seemed very upset…Look what’s happening now, they admire his ‘resolute actions’. Both sides are picturing their side to be righteous, which is very human. It is much more comfortable to read news that affirm your views. It takes effort to read views opposite to yours. It also takes effort to write a balanced opinion, it is much easier to just chastise the opposing view.

  10. mellie says:

    Joe Messina is totally correct, as always. Some people cannot handle the truth about anything, no matter how it is presented or explained.

Leave a Comment


Opinion Section Policy
All opinions and ideas are welcome. Factually inaccurate, libelous, defamatory, profane or hateful statements are not. Your words must be your own. All commentary is subject to editing for legibility. There is no length limit, but the shorter, the better the odds of people reading it. "Local" SCV-related topics are preferred. Send commentary to: LETTERS (at) SCVNEWS.COM. Author's full name, community name, phone number and e-mail address are required. Phone numbers and e-mail addresses are not published except at author's request. Acknowledgment of submission does not guarantee publication.
Read More From...
RECENT COMMENTARY
Tuesday, Oct 4, 2022
You can’t go far in our city without discovering public art or art spaces. Whether you stumble upon the poetry printed on our sidewalks, discover the vibrant colors of the Communitree at the Canyon Country Community Center, find one of the many Art Bears or enjoy the latest exhibit at one of the City’s eight galleries, there is much art to appreciate this month and year-round in Santa Clarita.
Monday, Oct 3, 2022
Happy October. Our September events were so much fun. We had a really great Chat & Chill with guest speaker Syian Wignal of Real Way Foundation.
Monday, Oct 3, 2022
One of the most anticipated events of the year is coming to the Canyon Country Community Center on Oct. 27.
Thursday, Sep 29, 2022
We began our Equity, Diversity, Inclusion and Anti-Racism (EDIA) journey nearly two years ago, and while the path ahead was not clearly defined, Health Services leadership was enthusiastically joined by workforce members across our health enterprise in a united commitment to creating a more welcoming, inclusive and proactively anti-racist health care system for our patients, staff and the communities we serve.
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2022
Recent media reports about overcrowding and lack of exercise for dogs at some other Los Angeles area animal shelters has prompted discussions about animal shelter population management. This is a key operational issue for animal shelters and deserving of the public’s attention.
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2022
As summer comes to an end, we can only hope that the extreme heat will also be ending soon! Crazy weather! The hospital is preparing for a very busy remainder of the year with many exciting ways for our community to get involved, from our Breast Cancer Awareness Month, including Bingo or Bust, to the Holiday Home Tour Gala and Boutique.

Latest Additions to SCVNews.com
The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health confirmed 10 new deaths throughout L.A. County, 1,058 new cases countywide and 30 new cases in the Santa Clarita Valley.
Wednesday COVID Roundup: Santa Clarita Tops 91k Total Cases
College of the Canyons has received a $1.37 million grant from the U.S. Department of Education’s Child Care Assistance Means Parents In School program to directly benefit the college’s Early Childhood Education Center. 
COC Receives $1.37 Million Grant to Support Early Childhood Education Center
Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital's Girl Talk: A Women’s Health Series will be returning on Thursday, Oct. 13.
Oct. 13: Henry Mayo’s Women’s Health Education Series Returns
Valencia-based Landscape Development Inc. announced that its maintenance division, Enhanced Landscape Management LLC, has completed the asset purchase of Ventura, CA based, The Groundskeeper, Inc..
Valencia-Based Landscape Development Further Expands Its Footprint in SoCal
The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors today awarded $144 million in Safe Clean Water funding, including 24 new infrastructure projects, 17 scientific studies, and various watershed area resources designed to increase the region’s water resiliency.
Supervisors Approve $144 million in Safe Clean Water Funding
The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved a motion by Supervisor Kathryn Barger and co-authored by Supervisor Janice Hahn that directed the County’s Internal Services Department to equitably identify internet broadband demonstration sites across all five of the County’s Supervisorial Districts.  
L.A. County Board of Supervisors Approve Digital Equity Motion
Vice-Chairman of the Public Safety Committee Assemblyman Tom Lackey announced Governor Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 1406 into law.
Governor Newsom Signs Assemblyman Lackey’s Bill to Prevent Inadvertent Fatal Shootings
1970 - College of the Canyons' first on-campus classes held in portable buildings located just south of future Cougar Stadium [story]
portables
What could be better than building relationships while playing cornhole and sipping on local brews? How about doing those things while helping young adults who are leaving foster care without a home?
Nov. 12: Finally Family Homes Inaugural Cornhole Tourney Seeks Sponsors
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department encourages parents and students to join their classmates and walk, bike, or roll to class on Wednesday, Oct. 12.
Oct. 12: LASD Supports National Walk, Bike, Roll to School Day
The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health confirmed 12 new deaths throughout L.A. County, 1,133 new cases countywide and 28 new cases in the Santa Clarita Valley.
Tuesday COVID Roundup: 1,133 New Cases in County, 12 Deaths Includes Child
First launched in 1985, Breast Cancer Awareness Month became the first organized effort to bring widespread attention to breast cancer. Each October Circle of Hope recognizes Breast Cancer Awareness Month with its’ annual event, 31 Days of Hope, to help increase attention and support for the awareness, early detection and treatment of this disease.
Circle of Hope Holds 31 Days of Hope Fundraising Campaign
The annual Saugus High School Boutique Fantastique will be held Saturday and Sunday Nov. 5-6 from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. in the Saugus High School Gym.
Nov. 5-6: Saugus High Boutique Fantastique
Welcome back, UCLA Hockey! The city of Santa Clarita and The Cube – Ice and Entertainment Center | Powered by FivePoint, are excited to announce the return of the UCLA Men’s Hockey Team for the 2022-23 season.
UCLA Hockey Returns to The Cube
Despite near identical shots taken, The Master's University women's soccer team was not able to find the back of the net as Ottawa defeated the Mustangs 2-0 Saturday in Surprise, Ariz.
Master’s Women’s Soccer Shutout by OUAZ
October is National Pedestrian Safety Month and the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department will raise awareness about the safety of people walking throughout the month, emphasizing that “safe drivers, safe speeds and safe vehicles save lives.”
October is National Pedestrian Safety Month
You can’t go far in our city without discovering public art or art spaces. Whether you stumble upon the poetry printed on our sidewalks, discover the vibrant colors of the Communitree at the Canyon Country Community Center, find one of the many Art Bears or enjoy the latest exhibit at one of the City’s eight galleries, there is much art to appreciate this month and year-round in Santa Clarita.
Ken Striplin | Get Creative this ARTober
"Groundworks," a new documentary by Justine Garrett (Critical Studies MFA 2006) and Ian Garrett (Theater MFA 2008), airs on multiple U.S. public television stations this month. In Southern California, the film was broadcast on KCET on Tuesday, Oct. 4 and will air on PBS SoCal on Oct. 10-11, coinciding with Indigenous People’s Day.
Oct. 10-11: CalArts Alums’ ‘Groundworks’ to Air on Public Television
The College of the Canyon Athletic Department and Associated Student Government are inviting community members to attend the 2022 Homecoming Celebration on Thursday, Oct. 13 at Cougar Stadium.
Oct. 13: Community Invited to 2022 COC Homecoming Celebration
1900 - Pico oil driller Alex Mentry (as in Mentryville) succumbs to typhoid fever at California Hospital in Los Angeles [story]
Alex Mentry
For the first time since 2020, the Los Angeles County Child Support Services Department is offering its Employer Workshop on child support requirements live in La Mirada on Thursday, Oct. 13.
Oct. 13: Employer Workshop on Child Support Requirements
Calling all Transylvanians! Join the city of Santa Clarita for a screening of the cult classic “The Rocky Horror Picture Show” at The Centre on Oct. 28 or Oct. 29.
Oct. 28-29: Rocky Horror Picture Show Screening
Join the city of Santa Clarita and explore your creative side this ARTober in celebration of National Arts and Humanities Month.
Santa Clarita Unveils ARTober Lineup
The city of Santa Clarita is honored to once again be named as a 2022 finalist for the prestigious award of “Most Business-Friendly City” by the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation.
Santa Clarita Named Finalist for Most Business-Friendly City
SCVNews.com
%d bloggers like this: