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Hello Auto Group has announced its partnership with the Santa Clarita Veteran Services Collaborative for the second annual Military Spouse Appreciation Event. This event, dedicated to honoring military spouses, will take place on Military Spouse Appreciation Day Friday, May 10, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the Anthony Vince Nail Spa at 24250 Town Center Drive #140, Valencia, CA 91355.
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The Santa Clarita Artists Association has announced the 2024 scholarship award recipients. These deserving individuals have shown excellence in their high school art education and shared their plans to continue their artistic endeavors.
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The Valley Industry Association of Santa Clarita is set to ignite innovation and transformation with its VIA Workforce Development Conference 2024 at the Hyatt Regency Valencia on Thursday, May 16. Jorge Marquez, chairman of the Los Angeles County Workforce Development Board, has been added to the list of speakers appearing at the event. He will serve as the opening speaker at the conference.
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The city of Santaw Clarita will host the Free To Be Me Festival for its third year at an exciting new location. On Sunday, May 5, from noon to 3 p.m., celebrate Santa Clarita’s special needs communities and their families at West Creek Park, 24247 Village Circle Drive, Valencia, CA 91354.
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The Los Angeles County Department of Economic Opportunity and its regional partners have held the first of several upcoming rapid response events to urgently connect soon-to-be laid off local workers, impacted by the recent bankruptcy and closure of dozens of local 99 Cents Only Stores, to critical workforce services.
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Youth in Los Angeles County foster care as young as 13 can open their own checking and savings accounts without an adult co-owner through the Youth Access Banking program.
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The Santa Clarita City Council will hold a regular meeting on Tuesday, April 23 at 6 p.m. The council will meet at City Hall, City Council Chambers, Items on the agenda include: Measure H funding, awarding construction contracts for traffic improvements and updating criteria for speed hump installation or removal.
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Visit Vasquez Rock Natural Area and Nature Center for a Day at The Rocks, a family fun event and tribal celebration of the Village of Mapipinga. A Day at The Rocks will be held Saturday, April 27 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
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Princess Cruises, headquartered in Valencia, and ship builder Fincantieri of Monfalcone, Italy have announced the mutual decision to postpone the delivery of the next Sphere Class ship, Star Princess.
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The Master's University men's golf team shot a 13-under 275 to finish second at the Golden State Athletic Conference Men's Golf Championships held at Briarwood Country Club in Sun City West, Ariz.
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Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff's Station Station deputies will be taking part in the “DEA National Drug Take Back Day,” Saturday, April 27, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m., in front of the SCV Sheriff’s Station, located at 26201 Golden Valley Road.
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The College of the Canyons Center for Civic and Community Engagement—in collaboration with COC’s Golden Z Club—invites the community to attend the Nonprofit Community Resource Fair on Tuesday, April 30.
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College of the Canyons made quick work of visiting L.A. Valley College in a shortened 11-3 home victory that came on a day in which the program unveiled its newly named Michele Jenkins Softball Team Room during a pre-game dedication ceremony.
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State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurmond hosted a California Apprenticeship Summit Wednesday to raise awareness of apprenticeship opportunities and career technical education pathways that connect California’s youth to high-wage, high-growth career opportunities.
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College of the Canyons student-athletes Nichole Muro (softball) and Angelo Aleman (baseball) have been named the COC Athletic Department's Women's and Men's Student-Athletes of the Week for the period running April 8-13.
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California State Sen. Scott Wilk, R-Santa Clarita, announced Wednesday his bill improving transparency between parents and schools’ sexual education curricula passed out of the Senate Education Committee.
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You are so offensive! Why SCVTV gives you a platform is beyond me. Hillary 2016!!
NO-Hillary 2016
Oh yeah, and first gentleman Bill Clinton For First Gentleman!!!!!
Excuse me? Why must you have mentioned the Quran? Such a biased article from a man with a pea for a brain. Absolutely disrespectful.
This article led me to unlike your page. Congrats!
You’re wrong, it’s an honor to get a rosary that came from the Pope. Go away idiot.
Right wing nut job!
Wow, what an incredible pile of dog s%#t. “It’d be like giving Qurans signed by Osama bin Laden to the families of 9/11 victims.” Just a pathetic and intellectually lazy thing to say. You’re no scholar, and you’re terrible at hiding your own racism. Enjoy the future, creep.
How many kids have you adopted Joe Messina?
Oh, none? Racist. Hahaha
Interesting, not a comment about Sanger and her comments and I’m the one with a problem?
Yeah, you are.
I left all the info on Sanger. Read and repent
I left all the info on Sanger. Read and repent
btw Joe, just say it out loud… you were WRONG about the resifting as the Pope didn’t GIVE the rosary to Obama – Obama bought it on his trip. They sell things like that at the Vatican, you know. The Pope gave him two medallions and his book- he gave the pope seeds from the WH garden. So… there’s one joe fact gone. And all the info on Sanger, her papers, and what she said is quoted above – even Cain got a “pants on fire’ rating when he tried this black genocide crapola in public. You think you’d have done your research and learned from his mistakes. But.. facts are not your strong suit. Trying to scare others, being a homophobic racist bigot… that might be better suited for you. Oh, and now with your attack on Pelosi … I must have forgotten you totally keep to everything in YOUR religion right? You never, ever disagree with your church’s teachings and follow it to the letter- yes? Right? Mhmmmmm.
btw Joe, just say it out loud… you were WRONG about the resifting as the Pope didn’t GIVE the rosary to Obama – Obama bought it on his trip. They sell things like that at the Vatican, you know. The Pope gave him two medallions and his book- he gave the pope seeds from the WH garden. So… there’s one joe fact gone. And all the info on Sanger, her papers, and what she said is quoted above – even Cain got a “pants on fire’ rating when he tried this black genocide crapola in public. You think you’d have done your research and learned from his mistakes. But.. facts are not your strong suit. Trying to scare others, being a homophobic racist bigot… that might be better suited for you. Oh, and now with your attack on Pelosi … I must have forgotten you totally keep to everything in YOUR religion right? You never, ever disagree with your church’s teachings and follow it to the letter- yes? Right? Mhmmmmm.
Deleted everyone who disagrees with you, eh?
How many kids have you adopted, Joe Messina?
I need to have adopted to have a say, I have 2 adopted family members! and YOU? AGAIN Your OK with Margaret Sanger’s original thought process.?
You’re exhausting. Stop talking with your fingers.
“”Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.” (Revelation 2:22-23)” – Looks like your Bible mentions killing children, so based on your brilliant analysis, if you follow the Bible, you support killing kids? Pretty flawed argument, Joe.
President Zero is thoughtless. Next thing you know he’ll give a Queen audio of his speeches…. oh, wait….
Actually Brendan, you failed to look for the appropriate context, as many skeptics often do. That section of text is what God and his angels will do to the children of the Jezebel, not what we are to do. As for the rest of these comments, I notice that NONE of them take Margaret Sanger, darling of the left, to task for her multiple directly, outwardly, and unabashedly hateful, racist statements. No wonder they’re just feigning outrage at Joe for his alleged insensitivity.
Actually Christine, the context wasn’t the point. The point is slamming a group of people for a misguided quote from 1920. You have the nerve to call people who support Planned Parenthood, racists, because of this quote from almost 100 years ago? Ok, then I can take an older quote and bastardize it into proof that your God is a vengeful hateful being. (I don’t actually believe that, BTW, I’m giving an example of the flawed thinking). And the Bible quote is in regards to adulterous woman.
Oh, my mistake, you said “children of the Jezebel” which is the adulterous woman.
Oh, my mistake, you said “children of the Jezebel” which is the adulterous woman.
Oh, my mistake, you said “children of the Jezebel” which is the adulterous woman.
Joe, you are as a “voice crying in the wilderness.” Prolly scarry for some to agree with you in a public forum; the risks are great. To wit, Brendan Eich. Who was merely in agreement with Presidents Obama & Clinton at the time.
yet Unlike Presidents Obama and Clinton, Elch hasn’t changed his mind. And UNLIKE Presidents Obama and Clinton he remains opposed to same sex marriage. I say it’s about time more people who refuse to treat people equally are called out for it and slammed.
Erin. Consider someone who considers gays as equal in every way, deserving of respect, jobs, etc, but who prefers traditional marriage as more beneficial to society and children. Is this view acceptable or to be ‘slammed?’
I don’t want to get in a heated debate, but how can you say someone is equal in every way, yet shouldn’t have the same rights as you? Marriage is not a religious term. You can be “married” in City Hall. I understand if your religion doesn’t view gays as equal (if they have less rights than you, they are not equal). But religion doesn’t have a monopoly on marriage, it simply doesn’t. You can be married in a church and receive the Sacrament of Marriage, but Marriage is not just religious. And why would a marriage between two people be less beneficial to society? What does a gay marriage prevent? So these people can be “as equal in every way, deserving of respect, jobs, etc,” but if they join a union of marriage, their existence is somehow detrimental to society? I’m curious what the adopted children of gay couples would think? It would be interesting to hear it, especially on a thread from an article calling supporters of Planned Parenthood, racists and supporters of a Hitler-like leader.
#1 Joe quoted the founder of Planned Parenthood; it amazes that no one finds her ideology, background,and statements problematic. #2 the legal benefits of committed couples can be provided outside of “marriage.” #3 some of us believe that, even if gays have adopted children, families are better off on the whole with a man and a woman as parents, each bringing unique talents and abilities. As we are seeing, this position has become unacceptable. The issue has moved now to intolerance to the level that one who disagrees must not work–the intolerance that gay Andrew Sullivan has now condemned.
And maybe we should get back to Joe’s original points of Planned Parenthood. I kinda took it aside with a different example of intolerance, which he was seeing in his posts.
I love how you can tell people they have no right to marry, then you complain of intolerance when people don’t agree with you. So if a baby can be adopted by a gay couple or nothing at all, your choice is nothing, right? You sound like a great guy.
I would not demand someone be fired for supporting same sex marriage. That’s the intolerance, Brendan.
And “Gay Andrew Sullivan” was talking about boycotting businesses based on the owners personal opinions on gay rights. This is an OPINION ARTICLE written for the sake of conversation. They have nothing to do with one another.
So was Joe’s, and so are my writings here.
Saying you have no right to marry because I don’t like it, is intolerance, Rick. The difference is, I never said anything about boycotting anything. But you made it clear that you’re intolerant of gays marrying. This is simple stuff, Rick. Don’t try to condemn me for something only you are talking about. Who brought up Andrew Sullivan? Not me. Try to cherry pick your intolerance to fit your argument, but it’s plainly simple to anyone reading this.
I certainly do not condemn you, Brendan. I merely disagree. My question is since I prefer traditional marriage, may I be allowed to hold this position and can I work? That’s why I brought up Brendan Eich.
Actually marriage is a contract between two consenting adults. One that comes with federal and state benefits – over a thousand federal alone- that can not be granted with a civil union or the like. So I’m afraid I DO think someone who believes this to be ‘ok’ needs to be slammed. Inequality isn’t something to be taken lightly. Just as people rose up to beat back the injustice of racial inequality or gender inequality, we rise up again.
If that means people who ‘believe’ (despite studies that show otherwise) there is some sort of magic in just a man and a woman raising children or believe (even though studies show otherwise) there is something ‘wrong’ with anything except heterosexuality need to be told what they believe is wrong, bigoted, and frankly inhumane then so be it.
I’m very tired of people hiding behind these beliefs in order to discriminate. Anyone in a leadership position should NOT be discriminating. Ever.
I’d also point out these exact same arguments were used during desegregation. That really should tell you something right there.
Gee whiz, Joe, don’t you know that facts are not what the left wants? They only want submission to their ideals (whatever they have “evolved” into for the day), otherwise you’re just wrong. Wrong to point out their hypocrisy, wrong to use PP’s own founding words, wrong to call out their anointed leaders, wrong speak at all. Why how dare you even breathe?! Name calling, personal attacks, and attempts at silencing you are only fair, you know, because the left is all about fairness.
Time to check those ‘facts’ … I’ve cited them above and actually given context. Amazing how that works. Enjoy.
salon.com = facts LOL.
did you miss the pants of fire from PollitiFact? Pulitzer Prize winning, btw. And the first by FactCheck.org? Was it he papers written by Sanger herself that threw you off- also cited? Or maybe it was her institution that gave the context that had you all in a kerfuffle?
…and the stuff Joe cites as sources are………. oh right. Out of his ass.
Politifact is run by the Liberal Tampa Bay Times. Again, LOL.
Keep going … eventually you’ll run into a source you can’t argue with. Like, HER PAPERS THEMSELVES or say, the institution …. Love that you don’t like the pulitzer prize winning politifact though… says a lot about you. BTW, waiting on the sources from Joe or you… feel free. Somethings tells me your sources aren’t pulitzer prize winning, or from the actual papers the woman wrote in context.. oh wait, did you get yours from the Onion? World Net Daily maybe? Oh I know… BREITBART!!! Or um… gee, hard to tell since Joe never sources anything.
And the misinformation about the ‘re-gifting’ ?? Will he issue a correction for that?
Fact: Planned Parenthood is one of the largest abortion provider in America. Fact: 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.
Sigh. FACT: Abortion is LEGAL. Fact: Planned Parenthood is purposefully in communities that need other options for health care for women that do not require insurance or big $$. They provide safe and legal abortions in 3% of their services. THREE PERCENT! Here is the breakdown of what they do: Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 71 percent of our clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy.
Planned Parenthood services help prevent more than 486,000 unintended pregnancies each year.
Planned Parenthood provides 585,000 Pap tests and nearly 640,000 breast exams each year, critical services in detecting cancer.
Planned Parenthood provides nearly 4.5 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.
Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.
You can find that on the Planned Parenthood website in PDF files and everything they have to REPORT to the government.
PP used to be supported by Republicans and Democrats alike because the goal is to get good healthcare to people who might otherwise NOT have access. To make sure they are educated on stds and to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies from happening in the first place.
WHY ON EARTH would someone against abortion WANT more Unwanted pregnancies and not want to work WITH an organization that’s sole purpose is to HELP WOMEN NOT GET KNOCKED UP so we have LESS heart wrenching decisions like abortion or adoption to make?
and again- I told you were my stats and sources came from… why won’t you or Joe do the same? Where did you get those #’s Gwendolyn Sims ? If you could just cite the sources so we could all take a look that would be swell. I have cited my sources for every stat and info I’ve given.
Real Life called so I had to step away. As for my sources, please see the following and note there’s not a Brietbart or FoxNews among them:
Largest provider using PP’s own Annual Report numbers: http://lifeissues.org/PP/index.html >> And SURPRISE finds “Planned Parenthood is the largest Provider and Promoter of Abortion in the US.”
Blacks in the US population from the US Census: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html So I mistyped 12% instead of 13%. The last census was 12.6%. #sosueme
Black abortion rates from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm Yes, it’s from 2009, the most recent numbers available.
And btw, no one said abortion wasn’t legal. Try to stay on topic. Now would you like to quote some more salon.com or how about some msnbc?
actually the most recent #s are from 2010 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6208a1.htm?s_cid=ss6208a1_wRace/Ethnicity
Among the 28 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2010 (Table 12), non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of abortions (36.8% and 35.7%, respectively)
because a pro-life site is so much better… what is life issues anyway? Im looking for your Planned Parenthood stats but so far, just life issue links.
That being said, I’m happy if it is PP providing the majority of abortions as at least we know they are safe and legal. But as I mentioned, and cited, termination of pregnancy is only 3% of what PP does.
Which is in their annual report to the gov. and WIDELY reported on during the PP ‘defudin’ hoopla last election cycle.
Gee whiz, Joe, don’t you know that facts are not what the left wants? They only want submission to their ideals (whatever they have “evolved” into for the day), otherwise you’re just wrong. Wrong to point out their hypocrisy, wrong to use PP’s own founding words, wrong to call out their anointed leaders, wrong speak at all. Why how dare you even breathe?! Name calling, personal attacks, and attempts at silencing you are only fair, you know, because the left is all about fairness.
Time to check those ‘facts’ … I’ve cited them above and actually given context. Amazing how that works. Enjoy.
salon.com = facts LOL.
did you miss the pants of fire from PollitiFact? Pulitzer Prize winning, btw. And the first by FactCheck.org? Was it he papers written by Sanger herself that threw you off- also cited? Or maybe it was her institution that gave the context that had you all in a kerfuffle?
…and the stuff Joe cites as sources are………. oh right. Out of his ass.
Politifact is run by the Liberal Tampa Bay Times. Again, LOL.
Gee whiz, Joe, don’t you know that facts are not what the left wants? They only want submission to their ideals (whatever they have “evolved” into for the day), otherwise you’re just wrong. Wrong to point out their hypocrisy, wrong to use PP’s own founding words, wrong to call out their anointed leaders, wrong speak at all. Why how dare you even breathe?! Name calling, personal attacks, and attempts at silencing you are only fair, you know, because the left is all about fairness.
Time to check those ‘facts’ … I’ve cited them above and actually given context. Amazing how that works. Enjoy.
salon.com = facts LOL.
did you miss the pants of fire from PollitiFact? Pulitzer Prize winning, btw. And the first by FactCheck.org? Was it he papers written by Sanger herself that threw you off- also cited? Or maybe it was her institution that gave the context that had you all in a kerfuffle?
…and the stuff Joe cites as sources are………. oh right. Out of his ass.
Politifact is run by the Liberal Tampa Bay Times. Again, LOL.
Sad right commentary.
Sad right commentary.
Sad right commentary.
Unfriending.
Unfriending.
Unfriending.
What planet do you come from Joe??????
What planet do you come from Joe??????
What planet do you come from Joe??????
But Brendan, your quote was deliberately taking something completely out of context and making it sound as though it is something that would be done by a person as opposed to God passing judgement on those who openly reject Him and deliberately lead others astray. The difference is that Margaret Sanger openly stated that minorities should be killed, murdered via abortion and birth control and that this was the entire business plan of what would ultimately become Planned Parenthood. The left celebrates an organization that is carrying out that very work today and they celebrate politicians who receive an award named for the very woman who was so hateful as to call anyone poor and/or non-white inferior and unworthy of procreation. She was not a hero. She is responsible for building an organization that has snuffed out millions of innocent lives in the name of a cleaner race. Hitler would be proud.
Screw it, I can go on and on listing Bible verses where men are told to throw babies against the rocks, woman are thrown in the yard to be raped, etc. But I’m sure you have simple rationalization for all of it. There are incredibly horrific passages in the Bible, but most people can decipher better messages. Most people realize the world is completely different now. But yet you can quickly trash “the left” as racists who support a woman of Hitler-like status because of horrible things that were said long ago. You want to believe that anyone who supports PP is a lefty baby killer, go for it. Most of them probably view you as a hypocritical religious fool living in the dark. And spare me the “You’re taking it out of context” argument. This whole thing is based on an article where Joe compares a gift from the Pope, to giving the Quran to victims of 911???? And taking a person to task for their idiocy is hardly “outrage”, don’t flatter yourselves.
But Brendan, your quote was deliberately taking something completely out of context and making it sound as though it is something that would be done by a person as opposed to God passing judgement on those who openly reject Him and deliberately lead others astray. The difference is that Margaret Sanger openly stated that minorities should be killed, murdered via abortion and birth control and that this was the entire business plan of what would ultimately become Planned Parenthood. The left celebrates an organization that is carrying out that very work today and they celebrate politicians who receive an award named for the very woman who was so hateful as to call anyone poor and/or non-white inferior and unworthy of procreation. She was not a hero. She is responsible for building an organization that has snuffed out millions of innocent lives in the name of a cleaner race. Hitler would be proud.
Screw it, I can go on and on listing Bible verses where men are told to throw babies against the rocks, woman are thrown in the yard to be raped, etc. But I’m sure you have simple rationalization for all of it. There are incredibly horrific passages in the Bible, but most people can decipher better messages. Most people realize the world is completely different now. But yet you can quickly trash “the left” as racists who support a woman of Hitler-like status because of horrible things that were said long ago. You want to believe that anyone who supports PP is a lefty baby killer, go for it. Most of them probably view you as a hypocritical religious fool living in the dark. And spare me the “You’re taking it out of context” argument. This whole thing is based on an article where Joe compares a gift from the Pope, to giving the Quran to victims of 911???? And taking a person to task for their idiocy is hardly “outrage”, don’t flatter yourselves.
But Brendan, your quote was deliberately taking something completely out of context and making it sound as though it is something that would be done by a person as opposed to God passing judgement on those who openly reject Him and deliberately lead others astray. The difference is that Margaret Sanger openly stated that minorities should be killed, murdered via abortion and birth control and that this was the entire business plan of what would ultimately become Planned Parenthood. The left celebrates an organization that is carrying out that very work today and they celebrate politicians who receive an award named for the very woman who was so hateful as to call anyone poor and/or non-white inferior and unworthy of procreation. She was not a hero. She is responsible for building an organization that has snuffed out millions of innocent lives in the name of a cleaner race. Hitler would be proud.
Screw it, I can go on and on listing Bible verses where men are told to throw babies against the rocks, woman are thrown in the yard to be raped, etc. But I’m sure you have simple rationalization for all of it. There are incredibly horrific passages in the Bible, but most people can decipher better messages. Most people realize the world is completely different now. But yet you can quickly trash “the left” as racists who support a woman of Hitler-like status because of horrible things that were said long ago. You want to believe that anyone who supports PP is a lefty baby killer, go for it. Most of them probably view you as a hypocritical religious fool living in the dark. And spare me the “You’re taking it out of context” argument. This whole thing is based on an article where Joe compares a gift from the Pope, to giving the Quran to victims of 911???? And taking a person to task for their idiocy is hardly “outrage”, don’t flatter yourselves.
Actually that is why the context is important. Go read her papers. Go read what her institution says about her papers. Go read what the AA community that was involved at the time said about her and what that quote that went viral was ACTUALLY about. You are right. Context DOES matter, that is entirely the point.
Leaving the FACTS (actually documented and cited) here and on the website itself: Let’s start with Sanger. Here’s Factcheck.org
Sanger, who was arrested several times in her efforts to bring birth control to women in the United States, set up her first clinic in Brooklyn in 1916. In the late 1930s, she sought to bring clinics to black women in the South, in an effort that was called the “Negro Project.” Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague Clarence James Gamble that she believed the project needed a black physician and black minister to gain the trust of the community:
Sanger, 1939: The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”
It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”
Tells a wee bit of a different story, right?
And more this one from Salon
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/02/was_planned_parenthoods_founder_racist/
And one more for fun: http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/apr/08/herman-cain/cain-claims-planned-parenthood-founded-planned-gen/
A PANTS ON FIRE from PoltiFact — wow.
So, Joe. That’s her own papers and those who KNEW her in the AA community debunking your theory on every level. Disagree with abortion all you like, but don’t turn this into some racial genocide that it’s NOT. As evidenced by my facts as stated above and vetted by professionals. Your evidence is..what again?
On to the President’s meeting with the Pope. First of all, the President did not REGIFT the rosary, he bought it for Pelosi while there. The official exchange of gifts went as such: They exchanged gifts, with the Pope offering President Obama two medallions and a copy of his apostolic exhortation “The Joy of the Gospel.” President Obama presented Pope Francis with a seed chest filled with fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden. The chest is made of leather and wood from the Baltimore Basilica, one of the oldest Catholic cathedrals in the USA. He invited the Pontiff to visit the White House.
You can check the White House press release for the actual facts. Facts that seem to escape you every single time you write something.
Now onto your assertions that somehow these people in power are undeserving of being called Catholic or Christian yet are deserving of being racist for supporting Planned Parenthood- the clinic that SERVES areas you wouldn’t set foot in for fear your white, racist, homophobic, woman hating self wouldn’t be welcome. Turns out, if you again, check the facts, PP is sometimes the ONLY clinic for women to get any sort of health care in an area and yes they provide things like birth control and some of them provide termination of pregnancies. Which, last I checked, were LEGAL.
As a Christian yourself I suggest instead of passing along misinformation about a woman and a black man you obviously hate, you look with in and read your Bible and think about why you are so hateful, vengeful, and clearly upset by these people unlike you who are doing good for our country by HELPING the poor and uninsured and supporting places like PP that HELP those not nearly as advantaged and privileged as you.
I also recommend you fact check, because these lies – easily debunked as they are- are getting really old from a man supposedly in a leadership position in this community.
Erin, facts have no place in this argument!
Of course not-then Joe would have to be accountable for spreading lies! He can’t even get the rosary story right- which $20 says he will issue zero correction on.
Leaving the FACTS (actually documented and cited) here and on the website itself: Let’s start with Sanger. Here’s Factcheck.org
Sanger, who was arrested several times in her efforts to bring birth control to women in the United States, set up her first clinic in Brooklyn in 1916. In the late 1930s, she sought to bring clinics to black women in the South, in an effort that was called the “Negro Project.” Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague Clarence James Gamble that she believed the project needed a black physician and black minister to gain the trust of the community:
Sanger, 1939: The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”
It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”
Tells a wee bit of a different story, right?
And more this one from Salon
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/02/was_planned_parenthoods_founder_racist/
And one more for fun: http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/apr/08/herman-cain/cain-claims-planned-parenthood-founded-planned-gen/
A PANTS ON FIRE from PoltiFact — wow.
So, Joe. That’s her own papers and those who KNEW her in the AA community debunking your theory on every level. Disagree with abortion all you like, but don’t turn this into some racial genocide that it’s NOT. As evidenced by my facts as stated above and vetted by professionals. Your evidence is..what again?
On to the President’s meeting with the Pope. First of all, the President did not REGIFT the rosary, he bought it for Pelosi while there. The official exchange of gifts went as such: They exchanged gifts, with the Pope offering President Obama two medallions and a copy of his apostolic exhortation “The Joy of the Gospel.” President Obama presented Pope Francis with a seed chest filled with fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden. The chest is made of leather and wood from the Baltimore Basilica, one of the oldest Catholic cathedrals in the USA. He invited the Pontiff to visit the White House.
You can check the White House press release for the actual facts. Facts that seem to escape you every single time you write something.
Now onto your assertions that somehow these people in power are undeserving of being called Catholic or Christian yet are deserving of being racist for supporting Planned Parenthood- the clinic that SERVES areas you wouldn’t set foot in for fear your white, racist, homophobic, woman hating self wouldn’t be welcome. Turns out, if you again, check the facts, PP is sometimes the ONLY clinic for women to get any sort of health care in an area and yes they provide things like birth control and some of them provide termination of pregnancies. Which, last I checked, were LEGAL.
As a Christian yourself I suggest instead of passing along misinformation about a woman and a black man you obviously hate, you look with in and read your Bible and think about why you are so hateful, vengeful, and clearly upset by these people unlike you who are doing good for our country by HELPING the poor and uninsured and supporting places like PP that HELP those not nearly as advantaged and privileged as you.
I also recommend you fact check, because these lies – easily debunked as they are- are getting really old from a man supposedly in a leadership position in this community.
Erin, facts have no place in this argument!
Of course not-then Joe would have to be accountable for spreading lies! He can’t even get the rosary story right- which $20 says he will issue zero correction on.
Leaving the FACTS (actually documented and cited) here and on the website itself: Let’s start with Sanger. Here’s Factcheck.org
Sanger, who was arrested several times in her efforts to bring birth control to women in the United States, set up her first clinic in Brooklyn in 1916. In the late 1930s, she sought to bring clinics to black women in the South, in an effort that was called the “Negro Project.” Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague Clarence James Gamble that she believed the project needed a black physician and black minister to gain the trust of the community:
Sanger, 1939: The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”
It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”
Tells a wee bit of a different story, right?
And more this one from Salon
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/02/was_planned_parenthoods_founder_racist/
And one more for fun: http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/apr/08/herman-cain/cain-claims-planned-parenthood-founded-planned-gen/
A PANTS ON FIRE from PoltiFact — wow.
So, Joe. That’s her own papers and those who KNEW her in the AA community debunking your theory on every level. Disagree with abortion all you like, but don’t turn this into some racial genocide that it’s NOT. As evidenced by my facts as stated above and vetted by professionals. Your evidence is..what again?
On to the President’s meeting with the Pope. First of all, the President did not REGIFT the rosary, he bought it for Pelosi while there. The official exchange of gifts went as such: They exchanged gifts, with the Pope offering President Obama two medallions and a copy of his apostolic exhortation “The Joy of the Gospel.” President Obama presented Pope Francis with a seed chest filled with fruit and vegetable seeds used in the White House Garden. The chest is made of leather and wood from the Baltimore Basilica, one of the oldest Catholic cathedrals in the USA. He invited the Pontiff to visit the White House.
You can check the White House press release for the actual facts. Facts that seem to escape you every single time you write something.
Now onto your assertions that somehow these people in power are undeserving of being called Catholic or Christian yet are deserving of being racist for supporting Planned Parenthood- the clinic that SERVES areas you wouldn’t set foot in for fear your white, racist, homophobic, woman hating self wouldn’t be welcome. Turns out, if you again, check the facts, PP is sometimes the ONLY clinic for women to get any sort of health care in an area and yes they provide things like birth control and some of them provide termination of pregnancies. Which, last I checked, were LEGAL.
As a Christian yourself I suggest instead of passing along misinformation about a woman and a black man you obviously hate, you look with in and read your Bible and think about why you are so hateful, vengeful, and clearly upset by these people unlike you who are doing good for our country by HELPING the poor and uninsured and supporting places like PP that HELP those not nearly as advantaged and privileged as you.
I also recommend you fact check, because these lies – easily debunked as they are- are getting really old from a man supposedly in a leadership position in this community.
Erin, facts have no place in this argument!
Of course not-then Joe would have to be accountable for spreading lies! He can’t even get the rosary story right- which $20 says he will issue zero correction on.
Allow me to translate and summarize the main theme of Mr. Messina’s commentary: “I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THE REST OF YOU.”
Allow me to translate and summarize the main theme of Mr. Messina’s commentary: “I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THE REST OF YOU.”
I like asparagus.
I like asparagus.
That had better be Archibald Asparagus from the Veggie Tales or I’m gonna run you right outta this town.
Fact: Joe is quoting a women who said these things in the 1920’s? There is no relevance to her almost 100 years ago and PP today. And the Quran thing is incite full trash not even in the same ball park. How do you go from the Obama thing to everyone that believes in abortion is racist? The leaps of logic are amazing for such a small man.
Thank goodness most of you see Joe for what he is. I had assumed most of Santa Clarita conservative nut jobs and I’m pleased to see this isn’t true. My faith is restored. By the way you can have faith in your religion and not agree with doctrine that’s why god have you freedom if thought.
GS most of the care provided by PP has nothing to do with abortions which by the way is a legal medical procedure but provides wellness care to women you need to stop watching Fox News.
I do wish SCVTV Santa Clarita would consider the continual misinformation spread in these Opinion pieces. Why do you want to participate in spreading it? I just unliked your page (I know- big whoop)
And the Dacus comparison? Frustrated to see that Joe Messina still either does not understand that the problem with Dacus goes far deeper than a simple “against gay marriage” -or he is purposely misrepresenting it.
Very disappointed in SCVTV for allowing this extremist vitriol and hatred. We need to work on overcoming extremism.
If Nancy doesn’t want them I’ll take them!
What a boring old dead horse you are beating.
The first sanger quote is a quote on eugenics, not racism.
The second quote, unfortunately, is poorly worded. She is not promoting genocide, she is warning that they might falsely think one might assume they are.
This is the same old boring misinformation the right wing likes to vomit all over the internet irresponsibly. It is quite clear you heard from someone Sanger was racist and than just did a quick google search with no real thought or time put into your investigation.
“There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist — a nonviolent resister… She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning.”
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
“There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist — a nonviolent resister… She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning.”
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
Because fleshing out your own opinion is too hard. Therefore, let’s cherry pick a quite that suits my agenda, and leave it at that. Right wingers, lazy? NAAAAH.
Sad, but it once again shows the American people, we need a change, all the way around Wash.
Hahha aint this your old princpal Abraham Diaz
nope
Planned Parenthood and Benghazi!!!!
Yep, trusting women to make their own healthcare decisions in consultation with their doctor = RACISM AND HITLER!
Good manners and class seem to be sorely missing in the White House, I personally am getting tired of stupid people trying to be leaders who do not know the first thing about leading. BTW…hillary in 2016? I don’t think so! Thanks for your article Joe, I got the message!
Hillary 2016, read it and weep
Benghazi for President!!!
hillary 2016??? Are you kidding me? She can’t control her husband how can she come close to being a good leader? Benghazi is still hanging over her head and she knows it! Weeping over hill, don’t think so Julie! You have a wonderful day!
Everyday potus Nobama proves his contempt for this country. This is just one more example.
Once again people have given Joe a platform for his message of hate and intolerance. If we ignore him will he go away?
I just signed up to this page to keep in touch with what’s happening in our valley and came across this hate speech. If I wanted that, I can listen to AM radio. Funny, I see where he’s on our local KHTS AM station, figures. Nice image for both. I certainly believe in freedom of speech and my freedom to never use the media who decides to give this character his platform. Gotta love the program titles … “Fair and Balanced” Fox News and now “The Real Side” (both pretending it’s neither right or left). Goodbye to SCV TV and KHTS, there are far too many other options where hate speech isn’t featured.
So you are telling me that because I had relations with someone in the past, I am racist? I prevented putting myself in financial debt. I was in no way shape or form able to take care of another human, and by taking a preventative measure, I am a racist…? Can’t one get the same contraceptive at most pharmacies? Does that mean people who have accidents are all racist? Why are you over genealizing? So did you even look at the other side of the story or take into account some of the good that comes out of Planned Parenthod? You need to move out of the S&S tract homes immediately. I will over generalize just like you do and make this statement: Saugus no longer wants you or that stupid Jag of yours. Time to pack up and get the heck out of here! As for everyone here that is in agreeance with this quack, good for you, everyone has the right to their own opinion. You did not call me racist, that chump did and I really do not appreciate that.
Your article is spot on !! Thank You. Funny how those not used to hearing the truth, are the same “loving, and tolerant human beings” that become the most hateful and vile when faced with their reflection. The truth hurts as they say….and yes, yesit does.
Speaking of re-gifting, I hope and pray that Goldman and MESSina will return to wherever they came from. There’s more than enough pollution in the SCV and these two add so much to it. I’m aware that MESSina is an anti-gay bigot. (I personally experienced it!) But for God’s sake get your facts Straight, MESSina!
The media that gives him airtime or features him as a responsible op-ed should be called out…KHTS AM and SCV-TV.