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ecig_vapingSanta Clarita officials temporarily stubbed out an e-cigarette discussion Tuesday, while restricting operations on aggressive sales reps and massage parlors.

City leaders directed staff to take another look at a proposed ordinance that could limit where residents can “vape,” after more than a dozen supporters of “the vaping community” explained why the vapor-based product shouldn’t be legislated the same way as their tobacco cigarettes.

Ultimately, city officials pointed to pending legislation on the matter (SB 24), and the fact that scientists have not come to a consensus on potential health risks as a few of the reasons why it might be prudent to hold off on a move.

“Staff is going to come back and bring a new item to the council on e-cigarettes on a date to be determined,” said Gail Morgan, Santa Clarita city spokeswoman. “In the meantime, the staff is going to be looking at the status of any legislation with regard to any transit, parks or law enforcement as it relates to the e-cigarette.”

Electronic cigarettes are often marketed as tobacco-free nicotine delivery devices, and typically, instead of burning tobacco, a user draws air through the device; an airflow sensor or a physical power button activates a battery that powers an atomizer to produce an aerosol from liquid containing nicotine and flavourings, according to a study on e-cigarettes.

“E-cigarettes are nicotine delivery devices designed to look and feel like a traditional cigarette, a pen or a fashion accessory,” according to the National Institute of Health.

City Councilman TimBen Boydston, who said he quit smoking without the help of e-cigarettes, acknowledged there was a difference “between smoking and vaping,” because “smoking (hangs in the air),” he said, whereas “the vapor is basically water, and it dissipates much more quickly.”

However, how it could be “very annoying in a small area” to people who don’t want to be around the vapors, which was the point made by Mayor Marsha McLean, as well as council members Dante Acosta and Laurene Weste.

The city’s discussion for a vape ordinance was brought about due to “numerous complaints” about close-quarters vaping from the Transit and Parks departments, according to city officials.

There was also discussion about a desire to limit the modeling of smoking behaviors in front of children as part of the logic for those in favor of limiting vaping to vape shops.

As Councilman Bob Kellar pointed out, putting “E” in front of cigarettes “isn’t doing any them any favors” in convincing opponents of smoking that they’re offering a healthy alternative.

But he also acknowledged there was a potential positive if the product helps people quit smoking.

 

Aggressive sales and massage parlors

Ordinances for both aggressive sale and massage parlors were approved on a first hearing Tuesday at City Hall.

(Also approved) Chapter 11.35 – Aggressive Solicitation and Solicitation at Specific Locations

With an increasing homeless population within the City, panhandlers and solicitors are becoming a growing problem. The Sheriff’s Department received a total of 48 complaining calls regarding aggressive solicitation in 2014. While solicitation is a protected First Amendment right, aggressive solicitation is not. In responding to complaints, Sheriff’s Deputies are currently limited on what actions they can take to address grievances, as the Santa Clarita Municipal Code currently only regulates commercial aggressive solicitation. While it is a misdemeanor under the California Penal Code (Section 647(c)) to accost other persons in a public place for the purposes of begging or soliciting, offenders who are prosecuted through the District Attorney’s Office often have charges dismissed or are given lenient penalties.

A new chapter in the Municipal Code is proposed to prohibit any type of aggressive solicitation and to provide a way for the City to prosecute offenders. Also, since the courts have upheld support for ordinances that prevent solicitation in specific sensitive locations or those that create a captive audience for a solicitor, this new chapter will also include restrictions to solicitation in sensitive areas.

There are four main provisions to this chapter.

Prohibition of solicitation within a public place that is aggressive, coercive, intimidates, or causes fear for

Prohibition of solicitation in sensitive areas. Sensitive areas include: within 30 feet of any bank, automatic teller machine (ATM), bus, bus stop, or public transportation facility.

Prohibit any person from soliciting on private property if the owner, tenant, or legal occupant has asked the person to not solicit or has posted signs indicating solicitation is not permitted on the property. The definition of “private property” is any land not owned by the government or designated for public use as a public place. Private property where the public or a substantial group of persons has access is not considered private property in this instance. This provision would not prevent the solicitation from occurring in public places such as shopping centers or business establishments.

 

(Also approved)  Chapter 5.08 – Massage Parlors

In September of 2014, the California State Assembly approved Assembly Bill 1147. This bill prohibits the City from regulating massage practitioners, as they are regulated by the California Massage Therapy Council. The bill restores some of the regulatory power to the City by allowing for continued regulation of massage business owners and the ability to regulate hours of operation for massage businesses.

Information received from the Sheriff’s Department and the Community Preservation Division indicate that illicit activities associated with massage parlors tend to occur in the late night and early morning hours. City staff has researched hours of operation limitations established at numerous benchmark cities, in addition to completing a window survey of over 20 existing massage businesses in the Santa Clarita Valley. Staff recommends the limiting of massage businesses hours of operation to between 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. in an effort to deter illegal activities, while not conflicting with typical operating hours of legitimate massage businesses. These hours mirror those adopted for massage businesses in other cities, including Pasadena, Ventura, Glendale, and Palmdale.

The proposed updates to this chapter include: 1) removing code language that regulates individual massage therapists; and 2) restricting massage businesses’ hours of operation to between 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.

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19 Comments

  1. Todd Allen says:

    Want to vape go outside, show some respect

    • Sean Cohen says:

      They were attempting to remove it from any public space. Outside and in the shops included, which means no testing flavors, no biulds, nothing. Also, ive never once seen someone vape indoors besides the shops. And if they do, ill gladly tell them to stop, vaper to vaper. Show a little respect to the people trying to improve themselves/ or keep their hobby.

    • Seen a Walmart worker smoking while working the cash register!!! No respect whatsoever.

    • Sean Cohen says:

      And im sure said person was met with swift discipline.

    • Lexy Gould says:

      It should be treated like a cigarette. i hate when i see people puff on them repeatedly 5 times in a row. I mean, is that how someone would smoke a cig?

    • Sean Cohen THANKS for spreading the truth. its unfortunate that the news has spread such negative and incorrect information about vaping which causes people to be misinformed. People shouldn’t have to feel like they have to smoke, just because Big Tobacco is paying millions of dollars in order to get vaping banned due to their money loss. #idontvape

    • Sean Cohen says:

      Exactly Lexy, its not a cig. Just because you do not understand something or are opinionated against it, doesnt mean the ones who do should have to deal with it.

    • I agree it’s all about respect. Don’t Vape in stores restaurants etc, but completely removing it will force more people back to smoking those death sticks. I just lost someone to lung cancer because of smoking and I wouldn’t wish that kind of pain on my worst enemy. Give vaping a chance, not all vapers are ass holes about it.

    • Lexy Gould says:

      So basically you are saying that there should be no rules in society and everybody can do whatever the hell they want.

    • Lexy Gould says:

      And i am a former cigarette smoker and we don’t puff like that

    • there should be rules… but something that is helping people live healthier lives should not be banned completely from the entire valley when there is no conclusive evidence of any harm… especially when cigarettes are legal in certain spaces? i agree that doing it in restaurants, buses etc are unacceptable and so would many people that vape.

  2. Jim Oge Jr says:

    Dang,,, city did not force the panhandling issue but puts a time limit on massage parlors lol LAME!!!!

  3. Todd Allen says:

    Dan Elrufian, that’s what I do not like vape in the face. You’re not really quitting smoking with a vape , you a weak and have no self control

    • Miles Salek says:

      For some people who smoke then switch to vaping, they start at a nigher nicotine concentration, then taper themselves off progressively; weaning off has far better chances of being able to get done with nicotine altogether than just quitting cold-turkey. If you want people to stop smoking, give them access to the most effective route available instead of dismissing someone as weak; that’s like telling someone who got raped not to go to the cops, because not just dealing with it themselves is weak and they have no courage.

      Also, some folks just prefer the feel/sensation of vaping.

  4. Stephen Gold says:

    Is the Greens every gonna change to a Real Skate and Bike Park.. We can all benefit when that happenstance

  5. so cal guy says:

    So how about them Dodgers? Ever sit next to somebody at a Dodger game or other outside sporting event who is “vaping”. Its very obnoxious. I get the fact that some people are really trying to quit smoking and I applaud their efforts. But to those who are doing it as a new trend and doing everywhere they can with no respect for others is unacceptable. I also believe that forcing / placing those who “vape” next to actual smokers of real tobacco products is also unfair. What to do what to do…I think most of us non-smokers are only asking those who do choose to “vape” … choose to do it respectfully. So here’s to good health and those of you making a real effort to quit.

  6. MacroView says:

    Observe the people “vaping.”
    99% are young/younger people who are NOT trying to quit smoking, but find vaping a cool new trend.

    Get real folks.

    #VapingWillAlsoKillYou

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