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A strong defensive performance by The Master's University Lady Mustangs basketball team led to a 73-45 win against OUAZ in Surprise, Ariz.
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The Tejon Ranch Conservancy has published its calendar of nature programs it will host in February.
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The regular meeting of the Saugus Union School District Governing Board of Trustees will be held Tuesday, Jan. 20 beginning at 6:30 p.m. The board will first meet in closed session at 5:30 p.m.
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The William S. Hart Union School District has announced that Dr. Collyn Nielsen, Deputy Superintendent, Human Resources, has been named the 2026 Negotiator of the Year by the Association of California School Administrators.
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The city of Santa Clarita Planning Commission has scheduled a site tour of the Princessa Crossroads Specific Plan Project and a virtual tour of the Belcaro at Sand Canyon Project. These projects are expected to hold public hearings in the near future.
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Free business training webinars are available from the College of the Canyons Small Business Development Center this January.
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The Santa Clarita Valley Historical Society will celebrate its 50th anniversary with a unique gala on Saturday, March 7, 6-10 p.m.
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Saugus High School Instrumental Music gives back while raising much-needed funds for the high school's music program.
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Join the Santa Clarita Valley Chamber of Commerce for a special Non-Profit Council Roundtable, "Non-Profit Love Match: A High-Impact Networking Experience for Professionals & Nonprofits," 5-6:30 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 10 at the Education Center at Child & Family Center.
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There are places in our community where history is not simply remembered, but carefully safeguarded and brought to life every day. William S. Hart Park is one of those rare treasures.
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Congregation Beth Shalom offers a monthly film series that shows selected independent films one Sunday per month at 2 p.m.
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The California Department of Public Health is collaborating with the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control and the California Department of Tax and Fee Administration to remind consumers and retailers that products containing kratom or 7-hyrdroxymitragynine, commonly known as 7-OH, are associated with addiction, serious harm, overdose and death.
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Foothill League soccer is coming into a final flurry of league matches that will sort out standings.
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The Valencia FivePoint Farmers Market will offer a special live cooking demonstration and tasting on Sunday, Jan. 18.
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In honor of Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Governor Gavin Newsom announced that California residents and visitors will receive free vehicle day-use entry to participating California state parks on Monday, Jan. 19.
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Assemblywoman Pilar Schiavo will host the Third Annual MLK Day of Service on Monday, Jan. 19. The event will be held 11:30 a.m.-1 p.m. at the Santa Clarita Vallet Boys and Girls Club Thomas E. Dierckman Clubhouse.
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The Ridge Route Preservation Organization will host a Ridge Route Storm Clean Up Day Sunday, Jan. 18 at 7 a.m.
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The city of Santa Clarita January Community Hike will be held Saturday, Jan. 17, at 10 a.m. in the Quigley Canyon Open Space, Cleardale Avenue, Santa Clarita, CA 91321.
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The city of Santa Clarita invites the community to celebrate the groundbreaking of Via Princessa Park on Thursday, Jan. 22, at 10 a.m.
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Canyon Country Jo Anne Darcy Library will host a "Teen Library Eats: Ramen Noodle," event Thursday, Jan. 29, 4-5 p.m. at 18601 Soledad Canyon Road, Santa Clarita, CA 91351.
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The city of Santa Clarita has issued a traffic alert for Smyth Drive in Valencia.
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Sam Shepard’s dark comedy "Curse of the Starving Class," presented by Eclipse Theatre LA, will run weekends beginning Friday, Jan. 23-Feb. 1 at The MAIN.
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Whine whine whine. Not one gun law has been passed to take away your metal penis. Reagan passed gun laws and not one word. As a gun owner myself, there needs to be stricter laws. He’s opening the floor up for mature discussion.
As for D.C. and Chicago, those are areas that PROVE that illegal guns magically get in. Those areas (we are speaking inner city…not the comfy suburbs where there seems to be a decrease in violence) do not manufacture guns. Where do they come from? Somehow they are getting in from the manufacturer to the street criminal. There’s a middleman and you know this. It happened in the 70’s with Cointel. It happened in the 80’s with military guns during the Reagan years.
Lastly this is not a “left/right” issues. It’s a human issue. There is more than black and white but neither of those sides, you included, can’t see any grey.
The left has no answers, just questions and the right has the mentality of “Guns and Jesus.” The ultimate oxymoron. Meanwhile many of us in the middle just want to have kids safe at school and screw both partisan loons.
City gun laws are irrelevent when someone can goto another city, county or state to purchase. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html
City and county, yes. State, no.
Unless you’re active military w/ ID, federal laws prohibit buyers from walking into a gun shop in another state and bringing a firearm back with them.
However, you can purchase a firearm from a gun shop in another state, they then ship it to your local gun shop, you then pay the transfer fees and fill out all the paperwork once it arrives, go through the background check, and then pick it up after the 10-day waiting period. This is how internet and gun show transactions take place.
Note: Some states no longer have a waiting period because ATF Form 4473 has been replaced by a computer that allows instant filing and background checks. California DOJ does have this system but lawmakers still require a 10-day waiting period.
Yet this map shows guns from every state getting into Detroit. I know how it works, but it isn’t.
I just told you how they’re getting to Chicago. All they have to do is buy them online and have it shipped to a gun shop the next town over. There is nothing illegal about it.
Its also possible a family member from out of state is buying them and transporting them.
I also know of at least one group in the south running guns on Amtrak trains and shipping them to border states.
Won’t make a difference for the crowd that agrees with “Filled Diaper” Joe Messina, but here are times the president talked about that. http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/12/01/fox-news-pundit-cant-remember-any-of-these-time/201725
Joe you should read other papers besides the mighty signal
Every time that I see that dumb face on my wall, I expect a flaming pile of dog crap. Thank you for meeting my expectation, Joe! You really hit it out of the park with this rectal wreckage that you spew violently from the butthole of your mouth…
Ron you are a colossal douche bag
Typical liberal response! A barrage of personal attacks with no attempt to win the arena of ideas. If you don’t like it, “unlike” it
If you don’t like what he has to say, then don’t read his articles.
Ron, you crack me up!!! Love it!
Pretty sure this guy is Cartel
Liberals seem hell bent on laws that won’t really solve anything. “Feel good” laws that actually end up making everyone less safe. All strict gun laws do it make it less likely that a good guy with a gun is nearby to stop the bad guy with a gun.
Jessica RC tu amigo
Gun Free Zones Kill Children PERIOD.
The issue with mass shootings is not cut and dry a gun issue and not cut and dry a mental health issue. Its a problem on both fronts. If you look at the last couple of shootings that got National attention the criminal was a lone wolf and not on anyone’s radar for mental health issues. The Oregon shooting, the Reporter Shooting, the South Carolina shooting were all carried out by single individuals who besides posting on social media sites and sending manifestos were not actively being seen for mental health problems and not in any database that would have indicated they were a societal threat. So the only way to stop them was to make getting guns for them extremely difficult. The argument always comes up about the gun being a tool and the person is the problem, then we hear if you take my guns then take my car because I can kill with my car too. All are knee jerk reactions. The reality is that a gun is a tool yes but a tool specifically created to kill. There are no other uses than to kill. Yes protection , hunting etc. but they all lead back to killing. So we need to make anyone trying to get a gun jump through a lot of hoops to get this tool. Making people go through extensive background checks, mental health evaluations and limiting how many weapons and ammo they can purchase will help weed out those that should not have guns. I also think you make the consumer pay for all these hoops, hitting people in the wallet and making the cost much higher than know will help as well. last we need to change the culture in this country where people stand back and say nothing when we see individuals exhibiting anti-social and extreme behavior. The Oregon killer posted the day before that people should not go to school in the northwest and people egged him on to go through with his plan. Every One of those people should be an accessory to murder. In short, to point the finger one way or the other is just short sighted.
Ugh hippies make my skin crawl.
Is there a different photo you guys could use? Maybe something related to the article instead of this dude’s mug every time he puts words on the Internet.
Hi Joe. The approximately 15,000 people killed by guns in our country (compared to perhaps .001 percent of the number, per capita in strict gun control countries), is just the “cost of doing business”. What business? Why, the “business” of our liberty. Of course, the exact same rationale applies to abortion. We will not be anti- liberty when it comes to big government interference with a woman.
Preach on Mr Messina!
I’m beginning to believe that the writer and Hart Board of Trustee Messina must be paying SCVN to publish his venomous characatures of reality. Should he be doing so, I believe that in the public interest of disclosure, Editor Leon Worden should disclose the fact that he is being paid to publish Messina’s “Menudo” and disclose how much.
I (Leon) totally agree. What exactly do you wish to know?
You are supposed to report “news”….check your facts. The gun violence in Chicago are from guns obtained outside of Chicago because, wait for it, THOSE gun laws work. I’m not sure why I follow this page….
Firearms are just like narcotics. If you cant get it from your favorite dealer, you go outside the community. If firearms are made illegal and gun shops start closing down, there are plenty of people working the black market who will make sure their customers get what they want.
There are also people with the skills and equipment to make quality firearms in their home, legally, they don’t need to go to the black market or a dealer.
Wow, I made a comment….one without name calling. Even if you are on the internet, you are still talking to a person and I would hope you wouldn’t talk to someone you don’t even know in that rude manner. If you want to dialogue or convince me to see your side, do that, but there is no need for disrespect and name calling.
Dear scvtv. Please review Joe’s articles and reevaluate his status. We Dont need such negativity people writing cause it could send the wrong message to the wrong person
Yes, I agree. This guy’s “writing” is divisive and disgusting.
Time to un-follow this site.
If it’s gun free, then how did they get shot?
Jim Jeffries sums it up the best in regards to control! http://youtu.be/bHY48Q2UBVk
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Joe, you and your opinions are gross. I hope you’re the first paranoid faux news junkie that gets your gun taken away due to your mental health evaluation.
Maybe Joe missed or just shut it out, as he often does, POTUS referencing the huge number of gun related deaths in the country in the past year. Wouldn’t that include Chicago?
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Mr. Right wing crack pot gives no explanation for why Canada, Australia and UK have way lower gun related deaths if gun control is so ineffective at preventing it. We don’t need gun free cities, we need a gun free nation. That will not only saves lives in U.S. But also in Mexico.
Where do the terrorists and crazy people go to massacre? Where they are garuanteed not to have guns. Schools, parks, etc. Soooooo, how is gun control a good thing? You don’t see anyone shooting up a state with open carry laws do you? Let’s get a brain and think about these things
As usual, for Repubs, gun violence is never about the gun. Anything but guns!
Love the straw man arguments, Joe! “Obama wants your guns”. No, he doesn’t. ” I have to assume”… how about you stop assuming? Your assumptions are ignorant and wrong.
Want specific proposals that would help curb gun violence?
Implement magazine capacity restrictions.
Close the gun show/online sale loophole.
Require the use of trigger locks.
Close the “Charleston” loophole (look it up)
Repeal laws that give gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from negligence.
Make “straw purchases” a crime.
Want more, Joe?
Damnit Lee. Warn people before you post something so stupid and ignorant. I totally just shot beer from my nose laughing at your stupid comment. Everything you mentioned is already in place in Chicago and Los Angeles. Mag restrictions, locks, private and gun show sales must go through licensed ffl, registration 10 day waiting periods etc and every day I turn on the news and someone is murdering someone else. How is this possible? I thought you said with those types of laws things would be fixed? Your a dip hole, a clueless, mindless sheep who believes that taking away someone’s ability to defend themselves somehow in your liberal mind fart makes them safer. Your a cancer on this nation and you a sad American.
Incorrect. Try again, genius.
You certainly braved your IQ with that article.
I see his face and I brace myself, because I know I will end laughing out loud at his ignorance… Don’t ever stop writing this factually wrong “news”….
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/348197-obama-said-mass-shootings-dont-happen-in-advanced-countries-like-in-us-one-chart-proves-him-wrong/
Ranked #6 for rampage shootings, and out of those 6, we’re the only one with relaxed gun laws.
Joe, do they pay you to be such a tool?
Do you get talking points sent you you in the email every day so you know what to think and regurgitate?
Have you ever had an original thought?
Have you ever traveled outside the SCV and seen what works so well in better managed countries?
PYHOOYA.
I believe this article brings up a reasonable question between mass murders in public places to individual murder in urban places.
Recognizing there is a connection between the two might lead to a common solution.
Within the article lies a possible answer. Looking at models around the world where civilized societies have implemented effective gun laws is critically important and should not be marginalized as this posting attempts to do.
Many countries have almost zero murders. Why? What makes them different from us? Whether it be Australia or England as alluded to in this article, exploring their laws might allow us to extract pertinent rules applied to our country. (Realize, Henry Ford adapted mass production from the Japanese industrializing the US a century ago.)
I believe there will be a solution without reinventing the wheel. We just can’t be afraid to look for it.
Gene Uzawa Dorio, M.D.
Dear Mr. Messina! Thank you so much for another example of how closely you follow the teachings of Jesus! You do know that He said He gave us a new commandment (meaning we are still supposed to follow God’s laws about bearing false witness and not killing) that we are supposed to love one another! He even said we should turn the other cheek! I truly regret that I once voted for you! (Believe what you want, but please don’t portray yourself as a Christian!)
What will it take for him to not be able to write for this site anymore?
Once again, parroting the right like the good little minion d-bag you are. If it were simply a matter of mental illness, we could just ask about any and every other western nation on the planet how they deal with mental illness because none of them have this kind of problem with guns and mental illness. Apparently, all those other countries must have their mental illness problems under control. They don’t have people regularly shooting other people like we do. And I’m confident they have their share of mentally ill folks walking around. Sit down and STFU up, Joe. You’re an embarrassment.