The addition of the cross-valley connector (Golden Valley and Newhall Ranch roads) was a great improvement to relieve the congestion on Soledad Canyon Road. It makes it a whole heap better when crossing the north end of Santa Clarita.
The real problem is getting into Old Town, or downtown, Newhall from the east side of the SCV. You can drive on Golden Valley to Soledad or Bouquet and head south on Railroad (formerly San Fernando Road). You can also drive on the 14 Freeway all the way to Newhall Avenue (also formerly San Fernando Road), then head north to the roundabout and into Newhall.
Back in the day, just after I got off the horse and buggy and into an automobile, we could take Placerita Canyon Road all the way to 13th Street and turn left after crossing the tracks.
Now, the old Placerita Canyon Road is full of sharp curves and is just plain dangerous in places. It is also narrow and has vehicle-eating trees on the edges of the roadway. I don’t miss that part of it.
It also has a gate to keep the traffic from going through. You see, it is a private road.
I don’t miss getting a ticket from our local CHP for not making a complete stop when I would get on Highway 6 (now called Sierra Highway). Back then it cost me $35 each time.
At least it was a real officer of the law and not some red-light camera making me pay nearly $500. Well, back then, we had only five traffic lights in the whole Valley of the Santa Clara River, and not a one had a camera attached.
Since we had only one high school, getting to the east side of Saugus (now called Canyon Country) and also to Sand Canyon was simple. Just get on Placerita Canyon Road heading east; keep going until you get to Sand Canyon or turn left to go to Solemint Junction via Highway 6.
Between San Fernando Road and Highway 6 (Railroad Avenue and Sierra Highway today), the driving skills of a teenager were presented with a challenge unlike most other areas of our valley. Those darned oak trees near the edge of the road like to eat cars – and motorcycles and pickup trucks and maybe even a tractor or two.
I even know of one time when an oil well drilling rig had trouble making a turn around one of those trees and got just a little bent in the process.
I loved driving that road in the Newhall Auto Parts delivery pickup. I think it was a 1964 Chevy with an in-line, six-cylinder engine. That little truck could be filled with parts and the added weight made it easy to make the corners. (At least I thought so.)
Even back then, traffic was a problem. What we call “Railroad Avenue” today was only two lanes wide. Yep, only one lane each direction. Same for Soledad. Heck, you might even run in to a cow or sheep or goat.
So we would usually cut through on Placerita Canyon Road.
I think I’ve figured out a way we can do that again.
It might make a little money for the folks along the road and cut hours of driving time for someone who wants to avoid the other streets I told y’all about.
In Santa Clarita, it is easier to get a key to the city than it is to get a key to the Placerita Canyon Road gate. I’ve heard tell there is some type of ritual involved when a person actually is handed the key, and just like in the musical, “South Pacific,” the ceremonial is so very important. At least that is what I’ve been told.
Oh, I can imagine the day when I could drive through Placerita Canyon Road again and unlock that gate to go through as in days of old. Bliss. Pure bliss. No waiting for the construction of Newhall Avenue south of the railroad tracks. No waiting on any of the lights along the stretch of road, either.
Here’s the idea: The residents of Placerita Canyon could hold a raffle for maybe up to 10 lucky individuals to get a key to that gate for only for a week at a time. $10 a ticket, and you could by any number of them you wanted to.
For now, only the residents who already have the magic key can participate.
The drawing could be held on a Saturday at the gate to Melody Ranch with the winner attending the “ceremonial” the next day when he or she is presented with the key.
Come to think of it, a raffle might run afoul of the law. Maybe our fair city should think about finding a good route for a “mid-valley connector.” Someday through the old Bermite property and also via Dockweiler. I don’t like that last idea – it comes out on Sierra Highway only a little bit north of Newhall Avenue. What is the savings in that route?
One thing we’ve got to avoid is widening the original Placerita Canyon Road. Too many oak trees, and the city can’t afford the additional costs of buying the land for the road. I’ve heard it is some of the most expensive real estate in the SCV. Maybe the state could afford it. Nah … the cost might prevent building the high-speed railway if the state had to pay.
On second thought, I might have just found a way to stop that railroad.
Now it is up to the Placerita Canyon folks. Where y’all going to sell the tickets?
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That lame “gate” malfunctions all the time even when you have a key (and a resident of the canyon in your veh)! As I was rolling through that ridiculous gate, half way through the spikes popped up. No choice, but to continue on which lead to two very flat tires. The HOA rep was totally rude and refused reimbursement even with evidence the equipment malfunctioned. My auto insurance company successfully sued the HOA and the HOA was forced to pay for the tires and all of the damage it cased to the bottom of the vehicle. The experiences with the PC HOA members were so bad that I will never willingly drive down that road again. There are more aesthetically pleasing roads within SVC anyway!
No way. Added street traffic thru our tiny neighborhood in placerita cyn is not a good idea. We get enough idiot college students racing thru our streets. No need to put the residents in further danger. It’s a small small small community. Why try to put a major road thru a neighborhood?
I agree NO WAY! I was a resident on Placerita Canyon from 1979 until 2012! The property is on a private road to start. The residents do not have to allow other traffic through nor should they feel compelled to! Leave home earlier! The most significant reasons would be alluded to the years I lived on that street. Before the gate was installed we could never jog, ride our bikes, or walk our dogs due to the fact that a motorist could possibly spin out of control and hit us. During the time I lived on Placerita Canyon we lost cats, a dog, and three brick walls in the front of our house from speeding motorists! Of course the damages and repairs were never paid by the motorists! When the gate was installed we never had an accident again! STAY OUT Santa Clarita!
I’d be afraid of getting shot going on that road now. The residents seem mighty feisty! But isn’t that area incorporated?
It will never happen ,its all private property the people in canyon wont let it happen,I live on placerita cyn,and it bad already with.the way people drive down our street…the city is still not going to.pay for the road to get fix because of it being private..that gate is brand new,everything on it was re done,one of the reasons that it would’ve malfunction is because idiots that done read the sight.that say one car.still go through and break the arms and break other mechanical parts..
If your going to call people idiots then you should learn how to spell and use grammar correctly
Chris, come on, that is just rude. I have a tendency to proofread as I read things, but I don’t publicly point out other people’s mistakes, as that would make me look petty or something. I did something with my tendency. I edit the blogs of people whose first language is not English. A person’s writing skills does not necessarily reflect their intelligence. (I hope that I did not make any mistakes, LOL)
I see my own friend has my back…haha
Ironically, Chris, ‘your’ post also has a spelling error.
private property! they can do what they want, and let who they want in, and keep who they want out, out.
“If your going to call people idiots”…. Oh the irony. Lol
Lol I remember back in the 80s when this road was accessible before they put the gate up. That is when Santa Clarita had it’s small town charm. When it was safe and every family knew one another. I hope they keep it private for the residences sake!
P.s.the road at the top of the hill, name? Goes through the condos and dead ends, could be extended and goes right down to town. Pay for the down hill land Santa Clarita city council! Or stop whining.
Well said Kim Albrecq! I grew up back there too. The gate and speed bumps being installed was the best thing to happen to our tiny neighborhood. I remember big rigs using that road as a short cut. We were never allowed to ride our bikes on the road until after the gate was installed. Unless you live in Placerita Cyn you do not need access to that road or gate. Stay out of our neighborhood!!!!
Yeah idiots paying to go to college (to further educate themselves) yet can’t read the speed limit sign. Ohhhh the irony. Nevermind. Walk your family down the street while school is in session and call my bluff then.
Placerita Canyon Road, like some other roads in the Valley, has been gated for some time — since 1995 actually. It started when the City walked away from maintaining/repairing the Road. A lawsuit was filed and all you folks, including Mr. Manzer, the City, County, and State of California had the opportunity to step in and take over the Road. No one did and the ruling was that a two mile section was private. No one wanted to take over this responsibility, especially the City because they could never make the Road fit their desing criteria due to setback issues, having to take out heritage oak trees, utility poles to close to the edges of the road, lack of curbs, gutters, sidewalks and the like. In order to control ever increasing volumes of speeders, drunks and people just taking a short cut to go to Costco and the like, the Road was gated at only one end — the East. People can still go in the Canyon for their needs. They bicycle and run through the area now, when they couldn’t before. The City just added an Open Space section just to the northeast of the Gate. Placerita has NEVER been conceived as being part of the traffic circulation element, that has been the Lyons/Dockweiler extension — which is what Mr. Manzer should be talking about instead of his obviously uninformed fiction published here — oh wait, it is “opinion”! I guess he can say what ever he wants no matter how defamatory and factually incorrect he is. I previously have requested that Mr. Manzer contact me if wanted to discuss this issue factually/intelligently, but nothing, just “crickets” and at least we can now hear them at night in Placerita along with owls, coyotes and the like since we don’t have as much traffic noise. Mr. Manzer, you should also get out more often — the gate mechanism you depict has not been in use for over 6 months now and we have made a more bike friendly pass through haven’t we Kevin Korenthal? As the Road corporation’s CFO and Chief Counsel I can also reliably inform you that Helen Gunther’s alleged report above is completely and utterly false. I would hope the people at SCVTV, including Leon Worden would be a bit more careful about publishing this
drivel since it is now getting to the point that Mr. Manzer and others that support his views are willfully defamatory.
Placerita Cyn? Why would anyone want to drive thru that meth infested area? The gates were installed to keep the locals in! Why would anyone want to live with all the rats and oil rigs everywhere? Funny how people think! Put up bigger gates SCV to keep them in.
I heard they are going to make a connection through from Via Princesa?
I heard they are going to make a connection through from Via Princesa?
Need big road right down the canyon…
Need big road right down the canyon…
Amy Boone
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By far, one of the worst written articles I have ever read.
Placerita Canyon Road, like some other roads in the Valley, has been gated for some time — since 1995 actually. It started when the City walked away from maintaining/repairing the Road. A lawsuit was filed and all you folks, including Mr. Manzer, the City, County, and State of California had the opportunity to step in and take over the Road. No one did and the ruling was that a two mile section was private. No one wanted to take over this responsibility, especially the City because they could never make the Road fit their design/liability criteria due to setback issues, having to take out Heritage oak trees, utility poles too close to the edges of the road, lack of curbs, flooding, gutters, sidewalks and the like. In order to control ever increasing volumes of speeders, drunks and people just taking a short cut to go to Costco and the like, the Road was gated at only one end — the East. People can still go in the Canyon for their needs, they just can’t commute through it via motorized vehicle. They still bicycle and run through the area now, when they couldn’t safely do so before. Also, the City just added an Open Space section just to the northeast of the Gate. Placerita has NEVER been conceived as being part of the traffic circulation element, that has been the Lyons/Dockweiler extension — which is really what Mr. Manzer should be talking about instead of his obviously uninformed fiction published here — oh wait, it is “opinion”! I guess he can say what ever he wants no matter how ill informed, misleading and factually incorrect he chooses to be. I had previously requested that Mr. Manzer contact me if he wanted to discuss this issue factually/intelligently, but nothing, just “crickets” and at least we can now hear them at night in Placerita along with owls, coyotes and the like since we don’t have as much traffic noise. Mr. Manzer, you should also get out more often — the gate mechanism you depict has not been in use for over 6 months now and we have made a more bike friendly pass through haven’t we Kevin Korenthal? As the Road corporation’s CFO and Chief Counsel I can also reliably inform you that Helen Gunther’s alleged report above is completely and utterly false. I would hope the people at SCVTV, including Leon Worden would be a bit more careful about publishing this
drivel since it is now getting to the point that Mr. Manzer and others that support his views are willfully defamatory.
I assure you it’s not false. And if memeory serves you were that very rude person I mentioned in my post.
Dream on lady. Better start taking your memory meds again. I have the records and no payment has ever been made on behalf of Helen Gunther for any relevant/recent damage claim. Perhaps you are confused with another gate system within the SCV, such as Valley Street/Calgrove and the like. You also don’t have the right to use the Placerita gate as you have never had a gate card/privilege issued to you. If someone allowed you to use their card, that was solely their error and responsibility and I would love to know who that was to further verify your unsubstantiated claims here. You also fail to mention that their is signage at the gate stating that all use is at one’s own risk.
Yes, indeed you are that rude person. Keep going – it’s revealing and enlightening. Have a wonderful day! :-)
Having never met you I wouldn’t presume to say you are rude. Just because I disagree with your unsubstantiated assertions and call you out and you can’t substantiate it — doesn’t make me rude, it makes me factual and correct at this point. If I am incorrect, let us see your face (not a helicopter with posed LACO FD personnel) and tell us who allowed you to use the gate the many times you appear to be claiming and when your alleged incident is. You can be factual too. It is not rude, it is enlightening and involves knowledge. You should try it sometime instead of calling me names and gossiping on this forum.
What makes you rude is a comment like this “Better start taking your memory meds again”. I have since changed my name because I am married now so of course you won’t make the connection. Instead of thinking of other possibilities you just throw insults. Your hostility towards everyone comes over loud and clear and you are indeed rude. I feel sorry for you. Apparently even my profile picture aggitates you. As for the “drivel” your posting here I’m done reading it. Better things to do. Again, wishing you a wonderful day :-)
Thanks for proving my points — no substance in your comments about Placerita or the Gate. :)
Can’t believe the amount of hate spewed on these comments. As a SCV resident, I have no problem using all other routes AROUND Placerita to get where I am going. As a Hidden Valley resident, I wish Calgrove still had a gate. The city and lawsuits sealed us in here long ago, however, I don’t miss the traffic.
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I used to drive Placerita in the 80’s. It was quaint, rural, narrow and full of pots holes. There was and is a small boulder and wood home on the north side of the street that was abandoned. Adding to the small town atmosphere was a fact that 2 jack asses used that structure as their stable !! It maybe a small small neighborhood now but it really wasn’t too bad before. Guess what, I think you should stay private. Being lost in this quagmire of nothing but cookie cutter neighborhoods is a shame. STAY PRIVATE
Interesting… lower Placerita Canyon hasn’t been the same since the loss of Saxonia Park (best 4th of July gathering place) and the growing sprawl of Master’s College. Heavy rains always show the poor civil planning of the area and the very special folks who feel empowered with private roads and gates should enjoy the cost of repaving and lack of effective storm drainage. I always enjoy Darryl & Leon’s commentary.
Need to work on putting a gate on the West end at Placerita Cyn and Placeritos upset more people!! :-) or work on making Placeritos safer! PC might is one of the last, rural neighborhoods in the SCV and needs to be ignored by people who want to disrupt or community for selfish reasons!
Need to work on putting a gate on the West end at Placerita Cyn and Placeritos upset more people!! :-) or work on making Placeritos safer! PC might is one of the last, rural neighborhoods in the SCV and needs to be ignored by people who want to disrupt or community for selfish reasons!
I think it would be great to add a gate on the West end of Placerita Cyn along with implementing a SWPPP’s plan to keep everything contained(Just kidding… I still have a few friends living in the area)…