Santa Clarita Valley residents will have a chance to weigh in on the “north entrance” to the eventual 20,000-home Newhall Ranch development at a public meeting March 24.
Entrada North – “entrada” meaning entrance – is envisioned as a new Town Center with shopping, dining and entertainment surrounded by 1,150 multi-family residential units.
Developed by The Newhall Land and Farming Co., Entrada North would sit on 479.3 acres southwest of the junction of Interstate 5 and Highway 126.
Development would be concentrated in two main areas. “Site A” is the long-talked-about town center/entertainment area between Interstate 5 and the Six Flags Magic Mountain amusement park. “Site B” is the freeway corridor between the highways and the Santa Clara River.
Entrada North is actuallly part of Newhall Land’s original Valencia Master Plan – not the separate 20,000-home Newhall Ranch project. But it will “feel” like part of the Newhall Ranch development, which will abut it.
Entrada North is in the early stages of the process. A “notice of preparation of a draft environmental impact report” has been published (the “NOP”). It identifies the issues that are to be addressed in the EIR when it is drafted. The public comment period on the NOP opened March 10 and closes April 8.
Entrada North – Site B
The March 24 meeting is a part of that process. On that date the Regional Planning Department will hold a scoping meeting in the Santa Clarita Valley to give the public additional opportunities to identify issues that should be covered in the EIR.
The meeting will be held March 24 from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Rancho Pico Junior High, 26250 W. Valencia Blvd.
Then the EIR will be drafted, and then additional hearings will be held.
Read the Entrada North NOP [here].
Entrada North – Site A
The following is a description of the Entrada project from BAR Architects of San Francisco, who did the conceptual design work:
Adjacent to Six Flags Magic Mountain, The Entrada North master plan brings together residential, commercial, and hospitality into a new district. The master plan is based on a “Town Center” concept, with pedestrian friendly streets that connect various districts with outdoor parks and plazas that provide areas for congregation. With over 1,200 residential units planned, the Entrada North is envisioned to be a vibrant community, where residents and visitors alike can enjoy the many services and amenities provided.
This new town center will provide 3 distinct Districts linked together by a loop road. The “Shopping District” provides a combination of retail and outdoor spaces, all connected via a Main Street, the character of which is defined by ground level retail with office/residential above, along with a linear park that incorporates outdoor seating and dining opportunities.
The Shopping District culminates at a central park fronting a new hotel. The “Entertainment/Dining District” consists of a movie theater, dining, retailers and residential, all centralized around an outdoor plaza. The plaza provides opportunities to gather, to dine at the various restaurants and nightclubs, and enjoy the night activities highlighted by the movie theater. The “Outdoor/Sports Fitness District” will provide a unique experience with major sports retailers, a fitness center, and a true outdoor experience, with water features, climbing walls, and skateboard parks.
Entrada North – Site A
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OMG the traffic…
Traffic, yes, but the potential for increased diversity and economic growth is off the charts. I am a fan. Full disclosure: I am a Realtor at HomeSmart!
Diversity?
I agree. What diversity? just more overpriced real estate and upscale living.
More white collar yuppies is probably more accurate.
Britches. Archaic. So much for diversity. Learn some new language. Way to loose potential clients!!! Nothing like offending people and being rude! Great set of business skills!
Hey everyone! My mother-in-law is realtor out here as well. Hire her. Guaranteed not to be rude or offensive!
Ethnic, religious diversity?? in Santa Clarita??????? LOL LOL LOL.
Ethnic, religious diversity?? in Santa Clarita??????? LOL LOL LOL.
Horrible.
Because…we have so much excess water!
No thank you.
This is how little towns become a horrible place to live. To many cars on the road now!!!
oh yea SCV is so horrible compared to other places in southern california.
The 5 freeway is awful to get out of here when heading to work, the roads are packed and always an accident. Last I heard, we are in a drought so why build more…. where are we going to put all these people, cars, and of course…. how long before a new schools.
Going to buy myself a Townhome facing Six Flags Magic Mountain and sit on my balcony watching the coasters all day and night… and you can bank on that!
Can I visit with Dr Pepper and Coos Lights
For those seeking little towns (Santa Clarita is a medium sized city) I can suggest Lake Los Angeles! Private message me and I can guide you.
Understand this we moved to Santa Clarita when it was small that’s why us old folks moved here . my family came to this area to get out of the valley. Its why my siblings and I were born and raises here.. I would never said a client to work with you on purchasing a home. You are highly offensive and so rude in everything you post
Yes, diversity, Susie Hilton! Isn’t diversity a good thing?
Aren’t you the hobby lobby hater?
There goes my view.
Weighing in: We don’t want it. We don’t need it. Go away! Can’t believe how overgrown this town is. Too big for it’s britches. My great grandparents moved out this way over 60 year ago. They would be appalled if they were alive today.
Dreadful!!!
Why??
Prettttty sure I recognize some of these same people asking/begging for a Cheesecake Factory.
A cheesecake factory is a far cry from 20,000 new homes and an entire new mall/shopping center. Not to mention a cheesecake factory could be put in one of the many vacant buildings we already have.
Screw Cheesecake Factory and the 85 page menu they host.
Screw Cheesecake Factory and the 85 page menu they host.
Cheesecake Factory execs disagree with you. They have very detailed business models which require specific levels of day time lunch traffic, community demographics and a central location.
It’s not as easy as “put it in a vacant building”. Their successful strategy is built around looking for locations that fit THEIR needs.
I just think it’s humorous that our community has an obsession with “progress” when it comes to popular restaurants but against the development that would eventually attract them. Just an observation.
We have empty buildings all over and they want to add more?!
Yes, 60 years ago everything looked different. I looked very different 53 years ago! My great grandparents were born in the 1870’s and of course America looked very different, then. I personally love to witness the advancement of economic growth, ethnic and religious diversity, and greater educational opportunity for our youth. And neither I nor anyone I know uses the archaic term “Britches.” lol
Religious diversity?
As long as that economic growth doesn’t include Hobby Lobby, right Emily?
As long as that economic growth doesn’t include Hobby Lobby, right Emily?
My family came here in 33. When I was a kid, it was all open spaces. Where this mall is going is one of the last farm fields in SCV.
We came here in 81′, I was 5… my parents moved here because of the open space…..and there wasn’t the “sprawl”
We came here in 81′, I was 5… my parents moved here because of the open space…..and there wasn’t the “sprawl”
Maybe this will give us more things to do (nightlife) for parents who don’t want to go to the valley to have a nice night out. This place is boring as heck because it’s all chain restaurants with little to no entertainment.
well put, sarah sick in tired of driving an hour plus just to find good food or a good place to hang.
Move to the poo hole to the south.
Thank you for the wonderful information Jayne, I’ll look into that!
I am already dying of old age sitting at the signals. Not to mention the water shortage.
Lmao, seriously…between that and the entitled drivers who cut me off for a better poll position (as if that gets them to their destination quicker), I’m already about to go postal!
And the water?
Like I said, I cannot hide my excitement. I love the idea of ethnic and religious diversity, and, yes, that means people who are able to pay the prices. That also means people who are able to support local businesses (I am with you and all of the young people staying or returning, Sarah) and who can keep our school api scores high. In the end, I just love progress!
I’m sorry but you have highly contradicted yourself in what you have written on these threads.. How does building this create diversity?? Also support the local business of the mom and pops shops..look around they are closing everywhere due to the shops at the mall or because the rent increases due to all the yuppies moving here from LA. Our city and our country (mainly california) has turned the middle to poor.. I use to rent a 2 bdrm for 1200 out here now your lucky to find one for 1850 now in the ghetto which all these apartments have dragged in the filth of the valley’s..we use to have open space relaxful driving now it’s stop and go every light. You use to find parking at the mall now ur lucky if valet has a spot.. And I think you attacking Susie and calling out her husbands work is very unprofessional and sort of childish. I don’t know either of you but felt I needed to say something.. Also if you are one of the haters against Hobby lobby , you speak of religious diversity than walk it don’t just preach it.. Hobby lobby is built on religious fundamentals and do amazingly across the country like how In n out was when started
She sounds like a broken record!! Is that an archaic term as well??
She sounds like a broken record!! Is that an archaic term as well??
Good!
Vince Rivera
thumbs down to the homes, thumbs up to more things to do in this boring place
Disgusting!!!! All of that Beautiful open space and hills will be gone forever!!
Disgusting!!!! All of that Beautiful open space and hills will be gone forever!!
Well it sure looks different from 40 years ago. ..30…. 20… years ago. ..used to be folks had to go to the valley for a lot of services that they can get now in town…it’s a good thing…also there’s a lot of traffic to and from Palmdale that will jump off the fwys to shop…jobs…lots of jobs…
Well it sure looks different from 40 years ago. ..30…. 20… years ago. ..used to be folks had to go to the valley for a lot of services that they can get now in town…it’s a good thing…also there’s a lot of traffic to and from Palmdale that will jump off the fwys to shop…jobs…lots of jobs…
Are we talking good paying jobs or just more retail and service jobs that pay just above the Federal.
Are we talking good paying jobs or just more retail and service jobs that pay just above the Federal.
Seriously? I think it’s time to rethink things.
Seriously? I think it’s time to rethink things.
you can have it!… think I’ll stay in WYOMING!
For those concerned about the water, there is no state water involved. They have independent sources already banked & groundwater that historically has be used for ag will be converted. There will also be a large reclamation plant that will provide up to 60% of water for common areas, landscaping, etc. (all non-potable)
For those concerned about the water, there is no state water involved. They have independent sources already banked & groundwater that historically has be used for ag will be converted. There will also be a large reclamation plant that will provide up to 60% of water for common areas, landscaping, etc. (all non-potable)
L.A. Times has now reported that the state is looking at mandatory rationing. I was stationed in Central Valley of California, they would laugh at your comment since they are fighting for any water. Fields haven’t been planted up there, because they have been told, your not getting any extra water. If you’re talking about the local area, local news said 6 months of water…….. reclamation plant, if it’s not already here, where are they going to put it?
Yes troll Susie you go on with your bad britches.
I’m not the one that used that word. But I remember your rant against Hobby Lobby a few weeks ago. And about how you, as an attorney and realtor would never represent a “religious regressive.” Hopefully, for you, only YOUR narrow view of religious and economic growth takes place.
Yes troll Susie you go on with your bad britches.
I’m not the one that used that word. But I remember your rant against Hobby Lobby a few weeks ago. And about how you, as an attorney and realtor would never represent a “religious regressive.” Hopefully, for you, only YOUR narrow view of religious and economic growth takes place.
Kathy Samuelson, please refer all of your friends to your relative. That is what we all hope for. My client base is decidedly highly educated, upper middle class, and religiously and ethnically diverse. There is room for all of the great agents out here!
Kathy Samuelson, please refer all of your friends to your relative. That is what we all hope for. My client base is decidedly highly educated, upper middle class, and religiously and ethnically diverse. There is room for all of the great agents out here!
Looks awesome
Looks awesome
Love and light Susie! You are a true troll. Your lips to god’s ears!
Love and light Susie! You are a true troll. Your lips to god’s ears!
Name-calling. Now that’s a highly educated response
You’re a realtor?? Not a very nice one. Good luck with that.
You’re a realtor?? Not a very nice one. Good luck with that.
Before more large scale development within the Santa Clarita Valley, I would be interested in seeing the west side of Interstate 5 annexed into the City of Santa Clarita. The citizens of the entire valley deserve accessible, local government. They deserve a city hall 10 minutes away with responsive staff. They deserve their tax dollars to be spent 100% in their area. The county’s jurisdiction is simply too large. Water is a major concern as well no matter where they plan on obtaining it from.
Touche, Susie. God bless. It’s time to stop, now. I am in favor of progress and diversity. If you are not, you are welcome to your opinion but I believe you are on the wrong side of the future of the SCv. You have said your peace. Please stop attacking me.
Ditto
ummm isn’t traffic bad enough? What moron thought more people was a good idea?
Emily you sure do insult a lot for someone trying to get more clients. “Please call me.” Ah no thanks.
Looking good. Can’t wait to see it finished
Susie, shame on you for trolling and attacking me! Your husband is the pastor of an evangelical church in Canyon Country! Fellowship Christian Church. You should not be casting stones on facebook or anywhere, and particularly not from your Stratford townhouse.
How about a new bigger hospital first!
How about a new bigger hospital first!
OH My G
Sunni Schaffer-Perkins here it is mom! The one from my work. Crazy
Diana Mojica
I want our small town back
Thank you Newhall Land and Farm for NOT being concerned about quality of life in the Santa Clarita Valley. We can’t figure out where to dispose of our waste water current. Has anyone ever thought maybe it’s time to stop cramming more homes and people into this valley? Our resources can’t handle anymore. The quality of life of our current residence are at stake.
No more growth. Traffic, crime, water, homeless, schools, etc. Put the funds into what we already have here that needs upgrading or improvement. Don’t add to the problems, use some common sense this is not Awesome Town and never will be if it continues on the current path. just say’n
stop building
This is only the beginning! I attended several of the meetings to protest it! 20,000 more houses!
You might as well welcome it .. They are going to do it anyway
30 minutes from Saugus to 14 freeway just to get to work. So glad I moved out of Santa Clarita. I loved my town, but not enough infrastructure to move people around. Just too many people, not the same as it once was.
30 minutes from Saugus to 14 freeway just to get to work. So glad I moved out of Santa Clarita. I loved my town, but not enough infrastructure to move people around. Just too many people, not the same as it once was.
well, I can see why realtors like the idea but I don’t think school will ever stop building. I think Emily should move to city of LA if she wants to live in a big city, oh wait its too congested. Growth and diversity are fine but like anything in life , in moderation or in balance. This city has lost the balance along time ago and public service is trying to keep up (Henry Mayo). Quality of life, that to me is very important and every time this city builds more homes ( to the delight of realtors) it brings more congestion, polution and strain on public services.
Arguing with each other on FB is pointless. If you really care about this development either way, go to the meeting. The meeting will be held March 24 from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Rancho Pico Junior High, 26250 W. Valencia Blvd.
Arguing with each other on FB is pointless. If you really care about this development either way, go to the meeting. The meeting will be held March 24 from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Rancho Pico Junior High, 26250 W. Valencia Blvd.
well, I can see why realtors like the idea but I don’t think scv will ever stop building. I think Emily should move to city of LA if she wants to live in a big city, oh wait its too congested. Growth and diversity are fine but like anything in life , in moderation or in balance. This city has lost the balance along time ago and public service is trying to keep up (Henry Mayo). Quality of life, that to me is very important and every time this city builds more homes ( to the delight of realtors) it brings more congestion, polution and strain on public services.
I guess they need a 2nd mall now since no one can enjoy town center 1 without having to wait for hours to find a parking spot or eat.
Wow! Glad I moved out of the area almost ten years ago. Traffic was horrible back then, I can’t imagine what it is like now! Sandy Parkes, excellent point! The freeway annex is where money should be spent. Help people get in and out before adding over 20,000 more homes! What some people don’t seem to realize, is that 20,000 homes means more than 40,000 more people, as there are more than one person per home! People just don’t think!
Wow! Glad I moved out of the area almost ten years ago. Traffic was horrible back then, I can’t imagine what it is like now! Sandy Parkes, excellent point! The freeway annex is where money should be spent. Help people get in and out before adding over 20,000 more homes! What some people don’t seem to realize, is that 20,000 homes means more than 40,000 more people, as there are more than one person per home! People just don’t think!
Why does our city keep building? Water? We don’t have enough water now and they keep building.
Why does our city keep building? Water? We don’t have enough water now and they keep building.
It’s not in the city
It’s not in the city
Whatever the case, in the city or not water will be an ongoing issue so why all the growth?
Whatever the case, in the city or not water will be an ongoing issue so why all the growth?
Well, thank you all for playing, especially the flamers who are so incredibly negative towards me (Salon Centric). I picked up a new client from this thread! Happy Friday!
Well, thank you all for playing, especially the flamers who are so incredibly negative towards me (Salon Centric). I picked up a new client from this thread! Happy Friday!
New hall has become the devil.
First they sell off the golf course (Valencia golf)
Then promise the residents a new one.(TPC)
Then they turn it into a Private Golf course.
Bottom line is New Hall is all about the
bottom line.
Good riddance.
Joanie Hollingsworth
I understand advancement and that cities grow. The problem here in the SCV is yes, build build build……but they cant or won’t advance the streets widen or whatever. So……just keep adding more and more homes, more and more buildings without a way to get around. The traffic is sooooo bad right now here. Why just keep complicating everything? If you have a large valley and you plan to develop that valley over X amount of years wouldn’t you have thought of the infrastructure first knowing you would need it later.
No thank you, not in my town. There are more than enough vacant buildings now and no need for more housing and traffic … keep it small, keep it peaceful
Most of us moved out here because we didn’t want to live in the rat race of the Valley or bigger cities. We moved out here for a slower, calmer pace of life. We moved here to raise our kids in a smaller more close knit community. We didn’t move here for “the night life” or “the shopping” or “the fancy yuppy houses.” There’s a reason a lot of people that were born and/or raised here stay here and raise their kids here. If you want more to do, if you desire more of a night life, then you moved to the wrong place. If we don’t have what you want here, if we are “too slow” or “not exciting” enough, please move elsewhere so that you can find what it is you seek. This is my point in saying my great grandparents would be appalled. They moved out here to “get away” from the hectic pace of the overcrowded Valley. (And see, no need to offend anyone or call anyone names with my post). Have a lovely day every one. Enjoy the gorgeous weather.
Most of us moved out here because we didn’t want to live in the rat race of the Valley or bigger cities. We moved out here for a slower, calmer pace of life. We moved here to raise our kids in a smaller more close knit community. We didn’t move here for “the night life” or “the shopping” or “the fancy yuppy houses.” There’s a reason a lot of people that were born and/or raised here stay here and raise their kids here. If you want more to do, if you desire more of a night life, then you moved to the wrong place. If we don’t have what you want here, if we are “too slow” or “not exciting” enough, please move elsewhere so that you can find what it is you seek. This is my point in saying my great grandparents would be appalled. They moved out here to “get away” from the hectic pace of the overcrowded Valley. (And see, no need to offend anyone or call anyone names with my post). Have a lovely day every one. Enjoy the gorgeous weather.
Emily I agree with you 100%. I love this idea. Time to expand and grow. As a developer, we spend diligent amount of time planning through each phase of construction. Our contractors pay close attention to water sources, energy supplies, and of course location. What people do not realize is that this city is going to grow whether they like it or not. Old timers if you can’t keep up with times then you will be left behind. Keep progressing SCV!!!!
It’s not in the city
Sean White
OMG….you are all forgetting this development is in the County of LA jurisdiction. The city of Santa Clarita can only voice their opinion. If you want to stop this you have to go to the LA County Board of Supervisors. In case you didn’t know, those homes will be right across the 126 from the DUMP that wants to expand and has horrendous smells coming from it constantly. The DUMP wants to expand and that means more trucks and fumes coming into this once beautiful valley, then add in those homes….VOICE YOUR OPINIONS TO LA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS – MICHAEL ANTONOVICH if you didn’t know who represents this area.
Oh man they are really going through with it? I hope everyone really enjoys the Santa Clarita Valley. Because once this monster project is complete where going to spend most of our free time in this location due to traffic issues!
The following rant is not directed at any single person or group; in fact it includes well-meaning people who have not done enough, and that includes me.
To all of you who think that the Newhall Ranch (owned by Lennar, a company not even in California) Project is a good thing, congratulations. You are absolutely in tune with the small but powerful elite in the SCV who will make money from it’s development. Not to mention the folks who will profit in smaller ways.
At the same time, remember that all of the development west of I5 is in LA County’s control; you also have Mike Antonovich to thank for your future gains.
As for the rest of us, including the Santa Clarita City Council and those commercial interests who have helped push development, it’s a bit more complicated.
Any city is concerned about revenue, and SC is no different. Adding commercial developments in the city’s tax area helps support local government and the things they can do for residents (parks, open space, repaving projects, etc). No part of the westside of I5 helps any of that.
At the same time, commercial interests are active in City politics and have a lot more power than we do – even if some of us are part of the very few who attend City Council meetings.
Traffic issues are real, and won’t get easier or better as development takes place. Caltrans isn’t going to be adding a lot of lanes to either I5 or SR14 any time soon.
The real issue is water.
The Castaic Lake Water Agency is quietly taking over all the local water agencies to ensure they have control over all water IN, and AVAILABLE to this valley. When the water from Central and Northern California is not available due to the continuing drought, where will they find the water to serve all of this continuing development?
From us. From the wells in the Santa Clara River bed. And eventually from reclaimed water from the Sanitation (Waste Water) District. That is the water that the Feds have said is illegal for the SCV to pass on down to the Ventura County Farmers due to it’s high salt content.
Who do you think is going to pay to make that water potable for Newhall Ranch?
We are.
The SCV is home to the last river not dammed or otherwise physically controlled in LA County. It is also home to over 250,000 residents, none of whom have ever been told that “their” water could be taken from them. Our water purveyors have never said anything to us about severe water restrictions, other than what the State has passed on in terms of “wise water usage”.
CLWA has agreed to provide water to the Newhall Ranch Project across I5 and possibly all the way to the Ventura County line. Since it owns Valencia Water Company, it can do that. It also owns Santa Clarita Water Co., and if the westside needs more water, it can take from SCWC and give it to VWC.
Ultimately, because we weren’t involved deeply in both City and County processes, the powerful and wealthy companies and individuals have been able to control the decisions that determine all our futures in the SCV. Many of them are good people; most probably are.
But do you think they were concerned about your future? Do you think that they stopped to consider what would happen if a long term drought hit Southern California?
No. And neither did we.
As for the future, and what we can do? I don’t know. There still may be time to raise a big enough fuss so that our City Council takes notice and begins to look beyond their noses in planning for a future that looks very different from what we have had in the past.
But, change is hard. And without a new and open minded Area 5 Supervisor it will be even harder. But I know one thing; if we don’t try, then we are all complicit in how things turn out.
Yuk.
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WHERE IS THE WATER COMING FROM TO SERVICE 1,150 HOMES?
That is one of the questions that will have to be answered in the forthcoming EIR. It’s not yet at that stage in the process.