[NLF] – A new California Appellate Court ruling affirms the environmental review and approval of Landmark Village, part of Newhall Land’s proposed 20,000-home Newhall Ranch community west of Interstate 5, the company announced Wednesday.
A three-justice panel of the California Second Appellate District unanimously supported a February 2013 ruling by the Los Angeles Superior Court that affirmed the development project’s Environmental Impact Report, and other land use permits, as approved by the County of Los Angeles in late 2011. The court acted on a lawsuit brought against the County by Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, SCOPE and other environmental groups.
The appellate court’s 44 page opinion concurs with the earlier ruling by the trial court and fully validates the EIR, finding that the County of Los Angeles –which was the lead government agency that conducted the environmental review–had acted appropriately and with substantial evidence to approve the detailed document and its related mitigation measures.
“The appellate decision fully supports the Superior Court ruling and validates the several years of environmental review undertaken by the County of Los Angeles regarding Landmark Village,” said Marlee Lauffer, Newhall Land spokeswoman. “We had great confidence in the diligence the County took to certify the EIR.”
“As an owner of a company that is building master planned communities in California, we value our partnership with the County of Los Angeles,” said Emile Haddad, President and CEO of Five Point Communities, the development manager for Newhall Land. “Today, the exhaustive review of the County was affirmed by the Appellate Court to have been completed properly. We are thankful for their efforts and look forward to implementing the plans for Landmark Village.”
Landmark Village is located south of Highway 126 and includes a mixed use office and retail center, an elementary school, 2 miles of river trails and about 1,400 homes. It is part of Newhall Ranch’s Specific Plan which has undergone over 15 years of environmental reviews by the County, state and federal agencies. At build out, Newhall Ranch related villages will bring over 80,000 permanent jobs to the region and over 47,000 development related jobs. The Plan also calls for over 10,000 acres open space, 60 miles of trails, several public schools and community infrastructure including a water reclamation plant, fire stations, library and sheriff station.
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I’m sure that they’ll be plenty of water to go around.
What don’t you see about California’s water problem? Your heads deep in the sand on this one if you think there’s not a wster shortage! Come ask us in Arizona, where a majority of the Colorado River water is going….. California. Please start using it more wisely! Quality of life over obscene profits would be a start!
it was sarcasm, relax
it was sarcasm, relax
it was sarcasm, relax
did the environmental review cover water? if so, where are they getting it from?
Answer to your first question is yes; answer to your second question is in here … http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/landmarkvillagedeir1106.htm
Answer to your first question is yes; answer to your second question is in here … http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/landmarkvillagedeir1106.htm
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
Never end a sentence with a preposition. ✌️
The often heard but misleading “rule” that a sentence should not end with a preposition is transferred from Latin, where it is an accurate description of practice. But English grammar is different from Latin grammar, and the rule does not fit English. In speech, the final preposition is normal and idiomatic, especially in questions: What are we waiting for? Where did he come from?
The often heard but misleading “rule” that a sentence should not end with a preposition is transferred from Latin, where it is an accurate description of practice. But English grammar is different from Latin grammar, and the rule does not fit English. In speech, the final preposition is normal and idiomatic, especially in questions: What are we waiting for? Where did he come from?
The often heard but misleading “rule” that a sentence should not end with a preposition is transferred from Latin, where it is an accurate description of practice. But English grammar is different from Latin grammar, and the rule does not fit English. In speech, the final preposition is normal and idiomatic, especially in questions: What are we waiting for? Where did he come from?
The often heard but misleading “rule” that a sentence should not end with a preposition is transferred from Latin, where it is an accurate description of practice. But English grammar is different from Latin grammar, and the rule does not fit English. In speech, the final preposition is normal and idiomatic, especially in questions: What are we waiting for? Where did he come from?
The often heard but misleading “rule” that a sentence should not end with a preposition is transferred from Latin, where it is an accurate description of practice. But English grammar is different from Latin grammar, and the rule does not fit English. In speech, the final preposition is normal and idiomatic, especially in questions: What are we waiting for? Where did he come from?
found here…. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposition
found here…. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposition
found here…. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposition
found here…. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposition
found here…. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposition
i’m not that smart…i had to look it up. initial response was going to be…”I ended with a question mark.”
i’m not that smart…i had to look it up. initial response was going to be…”I ended with a question mark.”
i’m not that smart…i had to look it up. initial response was going to be…”I ended with a question mark.”
i’m not that smart…i had to look it up. initial response was going to be…”I ended with a question mark.”
i’m not that smart…i had to look it up. initial response was going to be…”I ended with a question mark.”
Yay for more houses when we don’t have any water!!! People are brilliant!! Let’s hope they come with lush landscaping and pools!!! #sarcasm
The water is an issue, but the overcrownding is going to be worse! That is going to be so many more cars on the already crappy and always under construction roads- super bad idea Newhall Land….
I wonder how many people are going to want to live across the street from a dump that is soon to be the busiest in the county? And just think of all those simi trucks driving past full of smelly trash…..
I’m thirsty…..
Stop talking about water people. Its bigger than that. This is money hungry local government making us who have lived here all our lives quality of life slowly diminish. Roads cant handle it. Schools are over crowded. Sheriffs always saying they cant come help because theres not enough to handle everyone. Its crap. Thank$ scv. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Interesting argument; local govt has nothing to do with it. This was the court upholding a landowner’s property rights. You’re against that?
Scvtv santa clarita, really? So what your saying is that local gov. Has nothing to do with city planning? Not following here, if the city’s infrastructure is reaching it’s limits and comprising emergency response times then who’s job is it to Over see that? You as journalists should know that a property owners land rights go only as far as gov. authority allows. IE: mineral rights generally not your property even when on your property
Scvtv santa clarita, really? So what your saying is that local gov. Has nothing to do with city planning? Not following here, if the city’s infrastructure is reaching it’s limits and comprising emergency response times then who’s job is it to Over see that? You as journalists should know that a property owners land rights go only as far as gov. authority allows. IE: mineral rights generally not your property even when on your property
It is not local govt’s job to care one way or the other when a property owner wants to develop his/her property. It is local govt’s job to make sure all state and federal laws are followed when he/she does so. In California, the state regulates development (through so-called environmental laws), not the locals. And the state has decided it wants ~100,000 additional affordable housing units in So Cal in the short term. The SCV’s population is slated to double again in the next 25 years.
It is not local govt’s job to care one way or the other when a property owner wants to develop his/her property. It is local govt’s job to make sure all state and federal laws are followed when he/she does so. In California, the state regulates development (through so-called environmental laws), not the locals. And the state has decided it wants ~100,000 additional affordable housing units in So Cal in the short term. The SCV’s population is slated to double again in the next 25 years.
As to your question about oversight, oversight is the locals’ job, but what they’re overseeing is conformity with state and federal laws.
You are right on Steven….it is not responsible building…isn’t there some endangered frog where they are going to build…shame on you Newhall Land….
You are right on Steven….it is not responsible building…isn’t there some endangered frog where they are going to build…shame on you Newhall Land….
Very interesting, so why is beverly hills’ not developing affordable housing? Local has the power to push back against unwanted state action. Will it have results that many want? Maybe, maybe not, but they have done nothing and are fully enjoying the larger budget that comes with property tax on thousands of new residents.
Wish that were true (the push back thing). Then we wouldn’t be stuck with HSR or Cemex. But it’s not really all that true.
Good point, so if this if the case how are wealthy neighborhoods not affected?
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Here’s a good example… the city might not LIKE that the developer decided to make this a 499-unit project (to skirt the stricter state law, legally) … but that’s what the developer decided to do. => http://scvnews.com/2015/04/22/499-new-homes-in-plum-canyon-fly-under-stricter-500-unit-threshold/
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Is 500 to 700k their idea of affordable housing lol
Where would BH grow? They’re built out. We’ve got the raw land; they don’t. And yeah, the definition of affordable is rather strange.
Where would BH grow? They’re built out. We’ve got the raw land; they don’t. And yeah, the definition of affordable is rather strange.
Where would BH grow? They’re built out. We’ve got the raw land; they don’t. And yeah, the definition of affordable is rather strange.
Where would BH grow? They’re built out. We’ve got the raw land; they don’t. And yeah, the definition of affordable is rather strange.
Where would BH grow? They’re built out. We’ve got the raw land; they don’t. And yeah, the definition of affordable is rather strange.
That value, so they can make the taxes related to that amount……..
Exactly. Plus local sales tax on goods since youll obviously be shopping locally
so I have to let my grass die so NLF can make a bundle. That sucks.
Hmmmmmm
Hmmmmmm
People are complaining about the water??? If you go drive by that plot of land today you will see the open fields and the daily watering of those fields. I for one want to see more home development and then even more after that. Anything other than more apartment complexes jacking up the prices because there is no affordable housing.
People are complaining about the water??? If you go drive by that plot of land today you will see the open fields and the daily watering of those fields. I for one want to see more home development and then even more after that. Anything other than more apartment complexes jacking up the prices because there is no affordable housing.
Eww
Everybody is talking about water. Really? ! This was in planning way before the drought. There is new construction going on all over the state which is a pretty good sized state. The local impact on already overcrowded roads and everybody else’s inconvenienced life with traffic, lounger lines at already packed stores etc. I think would be a little more important topic. NLF has over developed every piece of land they have for the almighty dollar without giving a crap on what the future impact would be.
Everybody is talking about water. Really? ! This was in planning way before the drought. There is new construction going on all over the state which is a pretty good sized state. The local impact on already overcrowded roads and everybody else’s inconvenienced life with traffic, lounger lines at already packed stores etc. I think would be a little more important topic. NLF has over developed every piece of land they have for the almighty dollar without giving a crap on what the future impact would be.
Lots of ‘overcrowding’ discussion. Not sure this would impact anything east of the 5 Freeway. Presumably people would jump on the 5 to go to work.
This is a win for businesses like Magic Mountain, Valencia Town Center mall, and perhaps a good way to revitalize the shopping center at the NW corner of Valencia and The Old Road.
Consider the tax revenue this will bring in as well – perhaps enough to pay for a sheriff station there? Of course there will be a fire station (or more) there…that (I believe) has to be included in a development of this size by law.
Agreed. People do not realize that these new homes use less than half of the energy and water that the houses built 20 years ago do. I would much rather sit in a little bit of “traffic” than drive the empty streets because many people do not have jobs to go to. Everyone is quick to forget how bad things were when development came to a screeching halt in 2009.
Whatever you’re smokin I want some. Get real.
Ellen Blondini Murphy – tell me more about your extensive experience in community planning, traffic management, and project management for the construction industry.
Lots of ‘overcrowding’ discussion. Not sure this would impact anything east of the 5 Freeway. Presumably people would jump on the 5 to go to work.
This is a win for businesses like Magic Mountain, Valencia Town Center mall, and perhaps a good way to revitalize the shopping center at the NW corner of Valencia and The Old Road.
Consider the tax revenue this will bring in as well – perhaps enough to pay for a sheriff station there? Of course there will be a fire station (or more) there…that (I believe) has to be included in a development of this size by law.
It to late. It’s a done deal.
Santa Clarita home prices skyrocketing. Crime rate has gone way up. Roads and 5 freeway are a mess! It’s only going to get worse with larger population.
Santa Clarita home prices skyrocketing. Crime rate has gone way up. Roads and 5 freeway are a mess! It’s only going to get worse with larger population.
Santa Clarita home prices skyrocketing. Crime rate has gone way up. Roads and 5 freeway are a mess! It’s only going to get worse with larger population.
WORST IDEA EVER
WORST IDEA EVER
WORST IDEA EVER
great…more fantastic news about this wonderful state…
it’s all about the mighty $$$$
When my home hits $750k or the kids are 18; see Ya!
When my home hits $750k or the kids are 18; see Ya!
When my home hits $750k or the kids are 18; see Ya!
When my home hits $750k or the kids are 18; see Ya!
When my home hits $750k or the kids are 18; see Ya!
Very upsetting for so many reasons.
Very upsetting for so many reasons.
Very upsetting for so many reasons.
Very upsetting for so many reasons.
Very upsetting for so many reasons.
It’s not just affecting the water, but did anyone think of the over crowded schools? Especially the high schools, don’t even mention the Castaic high school. I’ve been hearing that since my youngest kids started school, one of them is going to graduate high school next month.
It’s not just affecting the water, but did anyone think of the over crowded schools? Especially the high schools, don’t even mention the Castaic high school. I’ve been hearing that since my youngest kids started school, one of them is going to graduate high school next month.
It’s not just affecting the water, but did anyone think of the over crowded schools? Especially the high schools, don’t even mention the Castaic high school. I’ve been hearing that since my youngest kids started school, one of them is going to graduate high school next month.
It’s not just affecting the water, but did anyone think of the over crowded schools? Especially the high schools, don’t even mention the Castaic high school. I’ve been hearing that since my youngest kids started school, one of them is going to graduate high school next month.
It’s not just affecting the water, but did anyone think of the over crowded schools? Especially the high schools, don’t even mention the Castaic high school. I’ve been hearing that since my youngest kids started school, one of them is going to graduate high school next month.
Greg Brown is the sand wash a common area for dirt bike riding?
Greg Brown is the sand wash a common area for dirt bike riding?
Greg Brown is the sand wash a common area for dirt bike riding?
Greg Brown is the sand wash a common area for dirt bike riding?
Greg Brown is the sand wash a common area for dirt bike riding?
Whoever this new moderator is, I love you!
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What a bunch of money grubbing greed mongers. So the governor puts a 25% water cut on the state but yet they can build 20 K more homes so where does that come from and who pays for it? so I guess we can all say goodbye to local lakes. SO CAN”T WAIT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!
What a bunch of money grubbing greed mongers. So the governor puts a 25% water cut on the state but yet they can build 20 K more homes so where does that come from and who pays for it? so I guess we can all say goodbye to local lakes. SO CAN”T WAIT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!
I was born here and am happily relocating to AZ as I write this!
What a bunch of money grubbing greed mongers. So the governor puts a 25% water cut on the state but yet they can build 20 K more homes so where does that come from and who pays for it? so I guess we can all say goodbye to local lakes. SO CAN”T WAIT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!
What a bunch of money grubbing greed mongers. So the governor puts a 25% water cut on the state but yet they can build 20 K more homes so where does that come from and who pays for it? so I guess we can all say goodbye to local lakes. SO CAN”T WAIT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!
What a bunch of money grubbing greed mongers. So the governor puts a 25% water cut on the state but yet they can build 20 K more homes so where does that come from and who pays for it? so I guess we can all say goodbye to local lakes. SO CAN”T WAIT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS STATE!
I hope they solve both the water and traffic problems that will come with this!
I hope they solve both the water and traffic problems that will come with this!
I hope they solve both the water and traffic problems that will come with this!
I hope they solve both the water and traffic problems that will come with this!
I hope they solve both the water and traffic problems that will come with this!
Hummm, most of the decisions makers will collect their pensions from California’s taxpayers and move to another state leaving us to deal with the mess they created. Very dumb idea.
Hope they can’t sell them and take a financial bath….MORONS running this SCV….. WAKE UP IDIOTS…. we are in a historic drought….duhhhhhhhhh STUPID
Where’s the water coming from?
Ok water and TRAFFIC. There!
This is why I dont conserve water. I will conserve when the city is concerned about growth. Plenty of water for all sorts of new developments.
Will there be enough water for those new lawns?
First, I’d like to have the moderators of this site do something about the repetition that seems to occur with each post. Thanks in advance!
Did anyone look at the Environmental Impact Report referenced above? 608 pages that appears to be mostly blah-blah-blah. Nobody needs the EIR to realize that that these mega-developments are going to increase traffic congestion and draw more water. Traffic is already bad and it’s going to get horrible…someday as bad as West L.A. It would be nice if the politicians would put as much effort into maintaining the quality of life we have in SCV as they are putting into blocking the bullet train. But it seems as though they are happy to look the other way when comes the anticipation of development fees and new tax dollars. Grrrrrr……
Cross-posts from Facebook post 2 or 3 times, and there is nothing we can do about it. The EIR is far more than 608 pages. The Draft EIR alone is in 10 sections (9 plus maps), and some of the individual sections are more than 1,700 pages each. Links to all sections can be found by following the link to the 608-pager you mentioned.
By the way…who paid for the EIR? If the developer paid and is therefore the client, I wouldn’t trust it.
The developer (almost) always pays for the EIR. The theory is that your tax dollars shouldn’t have to pay for it.
Yep, people have been paid, money was spread on the table, and promises of high property taxes danced in their heads.
Yep, people have been paid, money was spread on the table, and promises of high property taxes danced in their heads.
Just what we need more houses! I thought we didn’t have enough water.
Just what we need more houses! I thought we didn’t have enough water.
They covered water in 2006 when there was no drought. This is ridiculous. Yes, California should put a building moratorium in place.
Earl E. Esson, NO WAY!!!
We’d have the helicopters, snipers from SWAT, 20 Sherrif cruiser units and MADD if we rode a Z50 anywhere near the wash.
Drought – no water – no drinkee – no agua aqui
WTF!
So much for the small town feel.
So this is where exactly?
From the map it looks like it is near Castaic, by the road that leads to the post office on the 126?
From the movie, “Field of Dreams”…”If we build it, they will come”. I say ‘If we don’t build it, maybe they’ll stay away’. We already have too many people, too many cars and too many houses. We don’t have enough water, jobs or fresh air. If the big metro areas on the coast don’t sink in the ocean from an earthquake, they’re going to because of all the weight that we keep piling on the edge of our state. If illegals were sent back from where they came, the population would be less and resources would be more.
That sounds exactly like what we wrote in 1970, before Stevenson Ranch and Jake’s Way and most of Valencia (except for the part about the undocumented workers who were harvesting our crops where the mall is now)
State should focus on water and builibg things that Will use more of it
Seriously not good idea, it is already so crowded out here, and what about the water shortage? WTF???????
OK; many points to touch on. 1) thank you to the moderator for jumping in with excellent information and comments. 2) to all the NIMBY’s (NOT IN MY BACK YARD); where were you for the last 15 years of approval process for this project? Did you read the documents and go to the meetings? I am not happy about this project’s impact but if you followed the process, you know that the developer met all the requirements for approval. Heck, even SCOPE threw everything they had at it. 3) Developers are in the business of buying land and building a product (which takes years) while gambling that there will be a demand at the time that they go to market. Property owners have rights when it comes to building and, in this state, the amount of hoops that they have to jump through is unbelievable. 4) The process of approval obviously includes looking at water demand and the mitigation thereof. 5) A little off topic but if our genius of a governor spent as much time and money on water infrastructure as he has on his “legacy” “High” Speed Rail, we would be in a LOT better shape right now. They knew we were in trouble 3 or 4 years ago and did nothing. Our water problems are due to liberal policy. Isn’t it ironic that Pat Brown (Jerry’s father) was the last governor to build dams to augment the water infrastructure in this state?
Here’ s a thought. How about another route out of the SCV from the north side of the 5 freeway to the valley or anywhere south. All of this construction and no alternate route(s) out of here. We are literally right on the othe side of the West Valley, as the crow flies. They should open up a route thru the mountains since they are already getting rid of all the beautiful scenery anyway. They should also consider emergencies before adding to the them. The last big quake was a perfect example as to how bad that could all be…again, but a lot worse now, with all of the new things, places and traffic since.
This will SO add to the quality of life here in the SCV! I can’t wait for the extra 40,000 vehicles exiting and entering the 5/126 interchange EVERY SINGLE DAY, the added peace and quiet and clean air, and of course increasing our horrific drought!
Developer $$ ALWAYS trumps quality of life.
Where are all the liberal protestors?? Too busy whining about climate change while this is going to be ruining your own back yard?
I hope they plan on expanding the 5 fwy as well. The recent “improvements” have done NOTHING to improve traffic flow. Now with millions of criminals getting their driver’s licenses (thanks, Sacramento) the roads are only getting worse. Yet it’s more important to spend money on bike lanes which the bicyclists aren’t even paying for, the way we pay for the roads through our registration taxes.
No surprise on this ruling This was the same Court that found there was no significant impact from the pollution generated by the 357,000 car trips per day that will be added by Newhall Ranch. No wonder the CA Supreme Court called up this Court’s last ruling. Looks like we have a Court focused on protecting Newhall and the hedge funds that own them instead of following the law and protecting the public. All the cases involving Newhall Ranch have been assigned to this one Division that always rules for them and against the public.
This Court division further attempts to deprive the public of the ability to petition the Supreme Court by not publishing their Decision. It is obvious that they know it is wrong and want it only to enable the Newhall Ranch project to move forward. It is especially ironic that the decision was released on earth day, showing once again how little our regional government cares about addressing the huge problems facing our society today in the form of lack of water and climate change.
I’m just curious where the water will be coming from for all these new homes being built and maintaining a “curb appeal” that suffices the HOAs?
here you go => http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/landmarkvillagedeir1106.htm
Build, build, build…they will keep coming.
Article says West of Interstate 5. Is that where Indian Dunes was at and also where Travel Village is. I lived in the SC Valley for 15 years off Decoro Rd and San Fransisquito Cyn Rd. Back then there were no homes and no through streets to get to the industrial area. A lot has changed since i came back last year and they still want to build more homes. It’s getting overcrowded in the SC Valley.
Yes, that’s the location