Well not so much. Yes, the president did launch against Muslims … in 1980. That was President Jimmy Carter. Carter’s attorney general at the time ordered all Iranian students holding a visa to report to immigration officials or face immediate deportation. A federal judge ruled it unconstitutional (sound familiar?) – but it was then reversed by a higher court in September 1980. There were more than 60,000 students registered. Of those, 430 were deported because of visa issues and concerns. Another 5,000 left voluntarily.
Carter also ordered the invalidation of visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the U.S. He stated we would not reissue visas, nor would we issue new visas except for compelling and proven humanitarian aid reasons or where our national interest was at hand, and the directive is to be strictly interpreted. (Can someone show me the links to the Democratic liberal outcry?)
So, let’s just say that Carter’s decision was OK because it was temporary. So is Trump’s. It has also been said that Carter’s was different because it didn’t call out a single religion and was dealing with a current crisis. Ah, really? Trump is also dealing with a current crisis, and the “news” media is lying to us when they say it’s against a religion. It’s not. It’s against nations that harbor terrorism and have ties to ISIS which happen to have a heavy Muslim population.
Another lie: Trump is banning all Muslims from entering the U.S. Yup, another “fake news” story. Trump’s temporary ban doesn’t include the seven countries that “fake news” is reporting. It includes one country, Syria, and Trump has agreed to create safe spaces for them. (If it’s good enough for our college kids, it should be good enough for refugees.)
If you actually read the document, it says:
The order seeks “to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States.” It says it seeks “suspension of issuance of visas and other immigration benefits to nationals of countries of particular concern.” It also says, “I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order.”
And it targets Syrians specifically: “I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.”
The news is reporting that the order bars all people hailing from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. Not true. And the news continues to attack Trump for selecting these seven countries and not selecting other states, saying he is protecting “his sprawling business empire in these other countries.” Large publications bought into it without any fact checking. Again.
Before I forget, the seven nations falsely mentioned as Trump’s choices for harboring terrorists actually came from the Obama administration. Yup. You see, Mr. Obama, at the request of then-Secretary Hillary Clinton (see a pattern here?) paused the Iraq refugee program for over six months in 2011. Selective recall by the Democrats.
I might add that the “Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015” not only included those seven terrorist nations but also prohibited entry into the United States even if you had simply traveled to one of those countries. What? No outcry?
Who was secretary of state in 2011? Mrs. Clinton. In 2011, the FBI found (quite by accident) that al-Qaida operatives were allowed in with a batch of Iraqi refugees due to poor background checks. All of the things we are told we don’t have to worry about. And who reported on this? It’s ABC News, not that so-called nutjob place Fox News. Did I say batch? That’s a dozen, I mean several dozen, who were let in. The FBI concluded many were bomb makers targeting American troops on military bases.
The FBI was tipped off after if found two al-Qaida operatives with Iraqi refugees in Bowling Green, Ky. They were brought to court and admitted to attacking American soldiers in Iraq. The FBI was so concerned that it dispatched hundreds of agents to try to track down where they were sending the IEDs in America.
There was so much information gathered that the Obama administration paused Iraqi visas for six months and allowed fewer than 10,000 visas to be processed for the rest of the year. That was less than half compared to the year before.
The ABC News team concluded that the vetting process was flawed and dangerous. Not Breitbart. Not Fox News. But mainstream media – ABC.
In checking out the process, it seems the basic verification process is to check names, variation of names and fingerprints against a “known terrorist affiliate” list. The word that should slap you in the head is “known.” Hello. How do we know someone we don’t know? How does someone who hasn’t been caught making bombs in Iran, Iraq or elsewhere get on the “known” list if he hasn’t ever been caught or suspected? They don’t. Therefore, they will always come up clean, just like the above bomber did.
Sounds like the Obama vetting system worked well. Obama “paused” immigration six different times. Not a word from the left.
I also believe Bill Clinton signed a travel ban from countries that had HIV outbreaks. Again, no outrage from the left.
Didn’t FDR sign a proclamation or executive order limiting the right of Germans, Japanese and Italians in this country, regardless of whether they were born here? I don’t believe he sent them back to their countries. I believe he locked them up in internment camps. Yet, FDR is held in the highest esteem by Democrats all over the country.
So, back to my usual statement: If you’re a Democrat, everything your team does is righteous, and everything the Republicans do is devilish – although that might not make sense to some of you because you don’t believe in heaven or hell.
It’s not equality the Dems want; it’s total control, and there is no fair playing field with their bat and their ball. The rules change as they need to in order to give them the upper hand.
You were found out in this election. Major wins over the last eight years in all areas of government for Republicans and conservatives.
Dems, please keep using your same message and same mantra. It will ensure a long, victorious run for Republicans and conservatives. And long live Nancy Pelosi.
Joe Messina is host of The Real Side (TheRealSide.com), a nationally syndicated talk show that runs on AM-1220 KHTS radio and SCVTV [here]. He is also an elected member of the Hart School Board. His commentary publishes Mondays.
CORRECTION: President Trump’s order includes Syria, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Libya, Yemen and the Sudan. It “proclaim(s) that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days…”
8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12) refers to aliens who had been present “(I) in Iraq or Syria; (II) in a country that is designated by the Secretary of State under section 4605(j) of title 50 (as continued in effect under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)), section 2780 of title 22, section 2371 of title 22, or any other provision of law, as a country, the government of which has repeatedly provided support of acts of international terrorism; or (III) in any other country or area of concern designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security under subparagraph (D)…” The Secretary of Homeland Security added Somalia, Libya and Yemen to the list in 2016 as published in the Federal Register (here); Iran and the Sudan were already on the list (see Federal Register).
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Ignore the man behind the curtain
Even the conservative Santa Clarita Valley voted for Hillary Clinton because they realized Donald Trump is unfit to be president.
https://signalscv.com/2016/11/16/santa-clarita-valley-went-clinton-voted-gop-ballot/
He triggers you. That is hilarious!
Joe Messina needs to crawl back under the rock he came from.
True but check dates and reasons those decisions were made. They reflected specific activities and usually one country- not just a general free for all! Plus the decision was discussed and not impulsively made!
Thank You ! Trump is a Moron !
Guilani admitted that Trump asked him how they could ban Muslims legally and this was their idea for the work around. So yeah, it is a ban on Muslims.
A majority of Americans did not vote for Trump. No avid Republican in public office anywhere seems to have brought a single case of “voter fraud” criminal action, anywhere in the US, even though repeated claims of such “fraud” are made. If MILLIONS of votes were cast illegally, one would think that a least one single case would have made it to a court by now. None have been brought as of now, even in States controlled by Republican office holders.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/16/1583223/-MORE-THAN-A-BILLION-VOTES-31-CASES-OF-VOTER-FRAUD
https://www.facebook.com/EngageTheEnraged/photos/a.138293829981525.1073741828.124737734670468/138293776648197/?type=3
So like which Muslim country is holding our 59 hostages you Moron ! Get a Grip Stupid !
Make America Great Again #Trump
Make America Hate Again is more accurate and to the point.
God bless America and no place else!
“So, back to my usual statement: If you’re a Democrat, everything your team does is righteous, and everything the Republicans do is devilish – although that might not make sense to some of you because you don’t believe in heaven or hell.”…Mr Messina, give me a break….everything Obama did the last 8 years, such a governing by decree, has been called ‘develish’ by Republicans. Republicans called it unconstitutional and seemed very upset…Look what’s happening now, they admire his ‘resolute actions’. Both sides are picturing their side to be righteous, which is very human. It is much more comfortable to read news that affirm your views. It takes effort to read views opposite to yours. It also takes effort to write a balanced opinion, it is much easier to just chastise the opposing view.
Joe Messina is totally correct, as always. Some people cannot handle the truth about anything, no matter how it is presented or explained.