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Where is she? Many of the Tea Party, right-wing, Bible-thumping, mom-and-apple-pie type of people are being made out to be lunatics.
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The Santa Clarita Valley Chamber of Commerce will hold its annual Awards + Installation event on Friday, Jan. 31 at the Hyatt Regency.
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The Valley Industry Assoction will host a Cocktails & Conversation event with Cameron Smyth on Thursday, Dec. 12, 5:30=7:30 p.m. at Margarita’s Mexican Grill, 23320 Valencia Blvd., Valencia, CA 91355.
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Following an extensive search, the Governing Board of the William S. Hart Union High School District has unanimously selected current Interim Superintendent Dr. Michael Vierra as the new Hart District Superintendent, filling the vacancy created when Mike Kuhlman resigned effective June 30.
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The California Air Resources Board has approved a $34.94 million incentives funding plan that will continue support ongoing efforts to increase access to medium- and heavy-duty zero-emission trucks, buses and equipment, with a focus on small businesses.
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The Santa Clarita City Council will hold its regular meeting Tuesday, Nov. 26, beginning with a special closed meeting at 5 p.m., followed immediately with open session at 6 p.m.
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California State Parks Office of Historic Preservation has announced it will begin accepting applications for the State Historic Rehabilitation Tax Credit Program at 8 a.m. on Jan. 6, 2025.
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Agree with you except for this: In some school districts, Bibles can’t be handed out on the sidewalk in front of schools because it’s too close to blurring the separation of the church and state clause. (Good luck finding that one in the Constitution.).
City sidewalk is public property and anyone can hand out anything on a public sidewalk. Stay too long and you can be cited for loitering, maybe, but that’s it, same as handing out campaign materials.
No one has permission to foist their religious agenda on my kid.
Stating a religious belief is the same as foisting it?
Handing my kid a bible is not stating a belief!! Do it in front of me and we are going to have a huge problem.
why you ask are the tea party types being made out to be lunatics?? Cause 99% are! Ted Nuggent, Sarah Palin….the list goes on and on!!!
To the author, Joe Messina: As a Mexican immigrant and proud naturalized American citizen, I can assure you that I would never take offense to the American flag worn on a t-shirt. In fact, I own a couple of those myself.
What does offend me, is that in your article you keep incorrectly identifying “Cinco de Mayo” as “Mexican Independence Day”, which is utterly false.
Mexican Independence Day is celebrated on September 15th (not May 5th) and has absolutely nothing to do with Cinco de Mayo, which commemorates the defeat of the French army at the battle of Puebla. It’s a completely unrelated historical event, since as everyone knows, Mexico gained its independence from Spain, not France.
That’s basic elementary school history.
I’m surprised to see these kinds of basic factual errors from a news source like SCVTV.
thank you!
And by the way, “Cinco de Mayo” isn’t even celebrated in Mexico. It was initially promoted as a holiday in the U.S. by the Tequila manufacturers as a marketing ploy, and it’s celebrated primarily by American college kids, not Mexicans.
Well said Christian Lanz.
Christian Lanz, I’m afraid you missed it by one day- I grew up in the border town of El Paso, Tx, and Mexican Independence Day is 16th of Sept., not the 15th. And Cinco de Mayo, the anniversary of the battle of Pueblo, is celebrated in Mexico- at least they celebrated it in Juárez when I was growing up, and I know it is a big deal in Pueblo. Nonetheless, I certainly support your right to say what you believe to be true. You have the right to be incorrect. It interesting that you find handing out a Bible (which you believe to be incorrect) to violate the same right. It doesn’t, as courts have held over many years. It’s a simple thing to say “No, thank you.”
Bonnie Traylor sorry, you’re the one who’s incorrect. While September 16th is the official date of Mexican Independece, the CELEBRATION happens the night before, on the eve. It’s called EL GRITO, when the president addresses the crowds from his balcony at “El Zocalo” (the presidential palace). That happens the night of the 15th.
I know because I was born and raised in Mexico City and lived there for 16 years, and participated in that very celebration every year. so please check your facts.
Now I challenge you to show WHERE in any of my comments I made ANY reference to the bible.
Bonnie Traylor here you go, please read and inform yourself before trying to correct a MEXICAN’s facts about a MEXICAN holiday.
http://nbclatino.com/2013/09/15/mexican-americans-celebrate-mexican-independence-day-el-grito/
So she is wrong because she has the date correct? It’s like saying Christmas isnt 12/25 just because people start celebrating on Christmas eve..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grito_de_Dolores
The actual CELEBRATION (El Grito), which was the point of discussion, happens on the 15th, not the 16th. Always.
El Grito may begin the celebration, but the holiday is called Diesiséis de Septiembre for a reason, and apparently the rest of your country is as uneducated as I am, because plenty of them call the 16th Independence Day and do indeed celebrate it. Look on any calendar of events in Mexico and it is there. Case in point:
http://www.enesonora.edu.mx/breves_enes/Efemerides/b_6_1_1_d_dia_independencia_mexico.htm
Bonnie Traylor, go back to my original post, it’s right there. I clearly stated I was talking about the CELEBRATION (El Grito) which happens on the 15th. You then attempted to correct me by claiming I had missed the day (again, of the celebration) by one day. You were wrong, plain and simple. Everyone makes mistakes.
Puebla, not Pueblo, haha- stupid autocorrect.
Cheryl Goldburg- handing out free literature on public property is absolutely protected free speech and has been upheld by the Supreme Court many times. It is no more illegal to hand out Bibles than it is to hand out any other book or piece of literature, including informational leaflets on ANY topic of debate. Think of someone handing out campaign materials or information on birth control. This is protected free speech. Facebook posts are the sidewalks of the digital age. You wouldn’t want your posts on a public forum to be considered illegal, would you? Free speech and debate and wide access to information of all kinds is absolutely essential in a free society, and I would fiercely defend those rights, even when I disagree with the viewpoint of another. “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” -Evelyn Hall
The tea party is a very bigoted organization. They target the poor, and insist on a religious right agenda. There is a lot happening that is bigger than politics, when our food supplies are filled with yoga mat chemicals & GMO’s, our Bank system is screwed up, and there are laws that let police storm your home without a warrant, and schools have metal detectors. The tea party try’s to blame immigrants, and tell you to hate our President for our countries problems. It’s our responsibility to vote the way that we feel represents our values, and maybe the tea party are just too self serving for most honest hard working Americans to stomach.
Link below to different countries independence Days, courtesy of the CIA…
Link above ..lol
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2109.html
Seriously? I’m tired of seeing these stupid half-baked “commentaries”. I used to like scvtv.
Do ANY of you think your opinion will change anything?
Christian Lantz…I’m confused. Are you Mexican, or American? Because you seem awfully defensive about your heritage, as if you werelooking for an argument over your country. ?… which clearly is not America, and not as you stated in the first post.R Regardless of which country you choose, please stick to a consistent stance. I wouldn’t be so quick to jump on someone for trying to bring understanding to this situation.
Additionally, every native born American who happens to be white, conservative, and Christian is not crazy, or in line with the radicals who stand up and speakm on our behalf. They do not carry my voice.
I find the Cinco De Mayo debacle to be laughable. My kids will wear patriotic clothing every day of the year, anywhere they wish. The instant they are asked to not represeht their nation’s colors is the instant someone has a fight on their hands. My daughter–our nation’s daughters and sons fight for the freedom to be proud.
Cinco de Mayo, St. Patrick’s day, Halloween, Valentines Day, etc., are all optional , commercial celebrations. And asking anyone in the USA to not be proud is insane. It is exactly what is wrong with this world today.
Kari Dauer-Hewitt I am both Mexican and American, as I clearly stated in my first post. I was born and raised in Mexico City, and later my family and I moved to the U.S. (legally) where we proudly became naturalized American Citizens. I celebrate Mexican Independence Day on the night of September 15th just as I proudly fly the American flag on my front porch on the 4th of July. I love the United States just as I love my country of origin.
I certainly don’t have to “choose” one or the other, as you state, since I hold dual legal citizenship.
I find it absurd that you’re calling me defensive about my heritage simply for correcting a blatant factual error in a news article. If someone wrote an article incorrectly stating that the U.S.’s independence was celebrated on President’s Day, I’d be first in line to correct that as well.
Except, Christian LanzChristian, this isn’t Mexico. This is America. And Cinco De mayo is regularly referred to as Mexican independence day…by many Mexicans. And, fire the record, we don’t acknowledge Bastille day, it any form international holiday days, and forgo American holidays for other nationalities.
To be clear, I love my country first. And by your choosing to call the US your home, I feel it is only appropriate for you to do the same.
So because this is America and not Mexico, that justifies promoting ignorance of basic historical facts? Sorry, but I don’t know any Mexicans who think Cinco de Mayo is Mexican Independence Day. It they do, they’re ignorant and uneducated. And when did I suggest that in America we should forgo our holidays for other nationalities?? Did I not specifically state that I proudly fly the American flag on the 4th of July? I celebrate all American holidays proudly and patriotically, irrespective of the love I also have for my country of origin.
…And auto correct got me
Let it go Christian Lanz. Everyone is well aware that you are the authority on this subject. You’ve won the internet.
What Joe also fails to mention in this article (among his factual errors on Cinco de Mayo) is there has been SERIOUS racial tension at the school in question, to the point where race RIOTS have ensued.
The school knew that the kids wearing the flag shirts were doing it to incite violence on that day as the American kids of Mexican heritage celebrated.
So tell me…does Joe the school board member work to protect the safety of our children on this day or does his patriotic radio show shock jock allow, instead, the potential riots and death of our children? This was a very EXTREME case, thus the ruling by the courts. Had this NOT been so extreme (as the actual documents discuss) they would not have to take such extreme measures.
These student do NOT have the same rights as adult citizens as has been shown in various court cases throughout the years, from being able to censor school newspapers and so on.
SO Joe….which is it? Do you protect kids or is your Ted Nugent shock jock job more important.
ps..it’s embarrassing to see a school board member not even know or understand Cinco de Mayo is an American holiday like St. Patrick’s day. Basic facts are apparently entirely foreign to this side of the aisle. Sad.
If you read the article, which had nothing to do with you, in any way, then you would assimilate my posts with more than a dull, redundant argument. You clearly can not, and will not address the actual issue, because you just need to be right.
I’m stepping away now…
Kari, the article contained a blatant factual error which has no place in a news source such as SCVTV, and all I did was call attention to it. You’re the one that seems dead-set on defending historical ignorance and factual inaccuracies for absolutely no other reason than to be blindly argumentative.
No less than 14 other people have “liked” and agreed with my post calling out the misinformation contained in this article, so clearly you’re in the vast minority here.
Have a nice day.
Christian ignore the haters. If this were a St. Patrick’s day issue they’d be screaming for our kids to be protected by any means necessary. But because their are people of color involved they automatically assign blame.
Yes, I went there. No need to just ignore the elephant in the room.
Oddly, I was a Boy Scout and I can’t remember the part of Flag Etiquette that covers displaying the Flag on a human body. Oh yeah. The only time it’s appropriate is at a funeral.
Patriotism is in the heart, not on the sleeve. We are lucky and grateful to be USA-ans and we are happy to have the great nation of Mexico as a neighbor. (Lately they are way less a menace as Canada with her dirty oil and anarcho-capitalist government)
Erin Kotecki Vest says: ‘it’s embarrassing to see a school board member not even know or understand Cinco de Mayo is an American holiday like St. Patrick’s day’
Facts:
“Cinco de Mayo—or the fifth of May—commemorates the Mexican army’s 1862 victory over France at the Battle of Puebla during the Franco-Mexican War (1861-1867). A relatively minor holiday in Mexico, in the United States Cinco de Mayo has evolved into a celebration of Mexican culture and heritage, particularly in areas with large Mexican-American populations.”
Erin Kotecki Vest seems to think that Latino students can’t control themselves and will become violent at the sight of an American Flag therefore the flag must be banned. She also wonders if Joe would protect SCV students from violent Latinos.
The real story here is the belief that students can’t be encouraged to all wear whatever they want on whatever day they want with the expectation that they will respect each other.